Weight of my sins done tearing my soul, now tearing my body
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I was tormented by my situation a year ago, but after having some personal accomplishments, I found out that life really was worth living, and I was finally free of self-destructive thoughts always bringing me down. I started eating better, getting into an active lifestyle, this kind of thing...I never felt so good in my life ! But the problems were no longer mental, they became PHYSICAL.
Symptoms : After those realisations, my skin kind of "exploded" ; by that I mean that I have awful pimples that covers the entirety of my back. And it scratches a lot...I try to not scratch them for obvious reason, and I can support the itchiness during the day, thanks to my clothes often being 100% cotton, but it becomes unbearable as soon as I expose my skin to the air. So I scratch with a soft towel, and I often find that the towel have blood on it, and when I look back to them, well my clothes have some on them too ! the pimples look like they "explode" during the day, leaving traces of blood in the back of my shirts...
I also got kystic acne on my face and a little bit on my arms, and they leave scars on where they appear
I can't get an appointment to a dermatologist because there are literally none where I live, and I don't want to give money to modern science !
As for my diet : fairly simple I'd say, I almost never eat processed foods, I consume large amounts of milk, dairy, honey, fruits, eggs...I eat red meat at least 2-3 times a week. I started eating lots of chicken and turkey about a year ago, and to this day, I still eat those two animals fairly often
More symptoms : When I talk to people, they often say that my face is really red, and that I have a baby face (as in having big cheeks that one may want to pinch), and if I remember correctly, these two things are caused by a PUFA heavy diet
Ray Peat and his works are very new for me, I discovered him during the weird "conflict" you guys had with the original forum, and seeing the mess that the RPF had become, I came here seeking for your help. I bought carrots today to try the famous carrot salad mixed with coconut oil, and I can't wait to try it.
Thanks for reading, I would be grateful to anyone who could help me !
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@IkeIkeforever First and foremost it’s best to get a diagnosis of your condition. Being that you refer to it as “sin” it gives a sexual nature to it but it bears to have in mind that skin issues can often be a sign of a myriad of things.
Things that may help your immune system at the moment:
Cod Liver Oil
Black Seed Oil
Vitamin D3 5000IU minimum
Having lots of Vitamin C (natural origin is best)
Wild Oregano Oil
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@IkeIkeforever Take it easy, and work yourself through some of Ray's stuff (make a twitter account to look at it if you can't see it, it's very valuable info) as time goes on. Try to eat lots of fruit, and have a decent amount of skim milk. Get PUFA under 4g a day, and have an insoluble fibre everyday (carrot, 2h cooked mushrooms, bamboo shoots).
Then slowly you'll fix these things, rely on your understanding to increase and to apply the skills. Buy Progest-E from kenogen@gmail.com (Ray's formula straight from his widow, not an ad obviously) and apply that on the skin dissolved in some olive oil. Take it slow. Baking soda is a good idea too to take sometimes.
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@IkeIkeforever Turkey and chicken are absolutely loaded with PUFAs btw, if it started around the same time as you started eating those that might be a culprit
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@zoro Thanks for the answer !
I stopped engaging in onanism 2 years ago, but I was still struggling with mental health issues (atheism, self-depreciation, schizoid disorder...). I got rid of those attitudes (except for the schizoid one, still living with me), and I felt better.
Thanks again for the products recommendation, any detail that I should know before buying one of these supplements..? Maybe about the way it's extracted, refined, or something like that
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@CO3 Thanks for the answer !
I'll make one today, are there any accounts that I need to follow to see discussions about his work ?
Looks really simple, I'll do it and try to keep this thread updated. I always drink half-skimmed milk, I shall only buy fully skimmed milk from now on !
Same thing for the fruits and insoluble fibre, I will eat some as much as I can
Thanks for the mail adress, I'll buy Progest-E when I get the opportunity to do so
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@pittybitty Thanks for the answer !
Yeah, I realized it when I typed it, I'll avoid it as much as I can from now on !
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@zoro @IkeIkeforever The recommendations here for cod liver oil and black seed oil are NOT in line with Ray's advice. They're both high in PUFA and so if you're concerned about that I would not supplement with them at all.
On fish oil, Ray says:
In declaring EPA and DHA to be safe, the FDA neglected to evaluate their antithyroid, immunosuppressive, lipid peroxidative (Song et al., 2000), light sensitizing, and antimitochondrial effects, their depression of glucose oxidation (Delarue et al., 2003), and their contribution to metastatic cancer (Klieveri, et al., 2000), lipofuscinosis and liver damage, among other problems.
Black seed oil is >55% PUFA (polyunsaturated) and Ray says, on polyunsaturated oils:
Unsaturated oils, especially polyunsaturates, weaken the immune system's function in ways that are similar to the damage caused by radiation, hormone imbalance, cancer, aging, or viral infections. The media discuss sexually transmitted and drug-induced immunodeficiency, but it isn't yet considered polite to discuss vegetable oil-induced immunodeficiency.
In terms of skin issues, I've noticed that improving thyroid function, cutting out any estrogenic environmental exposures, including PUFA/seed oils (which includes chicken and turkey), and mitigating vitamin deficiencies have been the most effective interventions.
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@brad Thanks for the answer !
You came just in time, I was out in the city today looking for cod oil, found some but it was too expensive for me, so I didn't get it.
I'll ignore the cod and black seed oil then !
Still, something is bugging me : isn't it dangerous to take too much of a vitamin ? I'll try to find vitamin D near me, but I think that in my country it's only available through prescription...
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@IkeIkeforever It depends on the vitamin and your current levels. The best way to get Vitamin D is to get proper sunlight exposure (or to use a reptile lamp). The second best way would be to supplement with a clean brand like NOW. Taking vitamin k along with vitamin D is also helpful. I would also be concerned about most vitamin C, as it's made with black-mold derived citric acid rather than natural sources.
If you're drinking plenty of milk, orange juice, fruit, dairy, beef, etc, I doubt you're particularly vitamin deficient. Eating oysters or liver 1-2x a week can help. One way to determine if your problems are the result of a vitamin deficiency is to eat oysters on consecutive days and see if your problem gets better or worse.
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@brad I live in a cloudy part of my country, I go outside a lot but sadly, the sun isn't always there and it may impact the exposure I could have to vitamin D...I think my problem may come from there
I'll see if I can find oysters that aren't expensive in my area
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@IkeIkeforever Canned oysters are relatively inexpensive and easier to find in grocery stores and online. Just make sure they're not in seed oil (olive oil is ok, but drain it first).
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Hey all, just came here to report my "progress"
First of all, I finally tried the carrot salad with coconut oil, and I have to say that I never tasted food like that...it may sounds like I'm exaggerating, but it's so simple and tastes so different from what I usually eat in a normal day. I ended up adding a really little touch of honey into the mix, and it tasted even better than normal
Second thing, I started smoking based on the recommandations of my father : he and I kind of have the same skin, and he said to me that the cure to his pimple problem was tobacco...I was really dubitative at first, but I had to try it, because I'm willing to do whatever it takes to get rid of my problem.
And I have to say that...it works..? Or at least it feels like it ? Been 2 days since I started smoking, and I noticed that the pimples are smaller, don't itch anymore, and some already started to "disappear" (of course leaving a scar/mark behind them, but that's another problem)
Is there any reason on why smoking "cures" this ? It may be way too early to call it a cure, but I was really impressed at how effective it looks. Will keep you guys updated on this one
Have a nice day everyone
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@IkeIkeforever Niacinamide. Needless to say it's likely better to find a good source of that either dietary or supplement as smoking is unhealthy, It definitely has its benefits though. Nicotine is essentially the same as niacinamide/ B3, and people use that for their skin very effectively, topically.
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@CO3 Wow thanks for the info ! I'm not a heavy smoker, I smoke like 1-2 cigarettes per day ? And I don't smoke everyday, so I guess it should be fine. I'll definitely stop when I will be able to fully enter a peaty diet.
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A little update for everyone : coconut oil really helps my skin to look and be better ! A whole area on my back that was precedently full of pimples is now almost clear of them ! I have to say that I'm really impressed. Been using it to cook and as an asseasonment in almost all of my meals, and I really feel the difference
I'll try to apply it topically, maybe mixed with some olive oil as per recommended by a neighbourg of mine
For the nasty part :
The pimples that are still there looks like they're "blooming"...it's pretty disgusting, I will NOT share any photos (except maybe if someone is interested), it itches, even hurts a little, but the ones that "bloomed" in the last 3 days calmed down and disappeared. Kind of scared that they will all leave scars, but I prefer to have scars than disgusting pimples.
Have a nice day everyone
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@IkeIkeforever said in Weight of my sins done tearing my soul, now tearing my body:
except for the schizoid one, still living with me
Adding gelatin to your diet may be a good enhancement. It has calming properties, etc...
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Hey everyone, it's been a while, hope you're all doing great
Acne finally started to calm down ! I started taking 5000 UI of vitamin D every day, and ate a lot of cheese, and it's really promising !
The pimples no longer bloom as I said before, now they're much more smaller, don't itch, and an area near my shoulder blade is completely free of acne !
Of course there is still a lot to do, but for me, it seems that eating a lot of cheese, taking a vitamin D supplementation and consuming large amounts of coconut oil is really beneficial for my skin.
My face isn't full of acne anymore, still have some white pimples that appear here and there but other than that, nothing !
The problem that is starting to dawn on me is probably the scars that the pimples will leave on my skin.
Have a nice day everyone
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@Kvirion Thanks for the answer !
Didn't know that, it may sound stupid but I often eat little gummy bears as a yummy treat/quick energy boost when I have to do something but I feel too lazy to do it...they're made with pork gelatin if I remember correctly, so I don't know if it's a "good" gelatin to take for a schizoid disorder.
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@IkeIkeforever Gummy bears are a good idea if they are without artificial additives/preservatives.
The grass-fed beef gelatin is the best. Bone broth is a viable alternative. And still, pork gelatin is better than nothing...
BTW aminoacids like taurine and theanine also have calming properties.
