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    How Your Microbiome Influences Your Dietary Recommendations - Interview With Georgi Dinkov

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    • DavidPSD
      DavidPS
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      A new Mercola interview

      "In the ever-evolving field of bioenergetic medicine, the relationship between our diet, microbiome, and overall health continues to unveil complex and intriguing connections. At the heart of this exploration is the legacy of Ray Peat, Ph.D., whose theories on sugar intake and metabolic function have sparked widespread debate and interest among researchers and health enthusiasts alike.

      In this interview, repeat guest Georgi Dinkov, a bioenergetic medicine researcher and I delve into the nuanced understanding of how our microbiome influences dietary choices, particularly the contentious decision between starch and fruit as preferable sources of carbohydrates. Dinkov also reviews groundbreaking research and innovative treatments that aim to manipulate cellular energy pathways to combat cancer. "

      Youtube Video

      ““Effective health care depends on self-care” - Ivan Illich, 👀
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        Fascinating. Thank you David.

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        • DavidPSD
          DavidPS @bot-mod
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          @ThinPicking = Your welcome.

          Mercola.com has a free article about this video. If I remember correctly, the article is only free for the first two days. We are already 1 day into the free access.

          https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2024/04/21/sugar-microbiome-endotoxin.aspx

          ““Effective health care depends on self-care” - Ivan Illich, 👀
          ☂️

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          • GreekDemiGodG
            GreekDemiGod @DavidPS
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            I haven't yet listened to the full podcast, but I getting this right that Giorgi is diverging from some of his past ideas and also Peat's? He now seems to acknowledge microbiome diversity as something good, whereas before it was the opposite.

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              The idea that Dr Peat missed something which Mercola is going to clarify is highly unlikely. I could only manage 20mins of this. 5mins in Mercola tells us what Dr Peat missed regarding microbiome then goes on to repeat that he was wrong about fructose too. When he says he is going to open a clinic testing microbiomes I wasn’t surprised. It seems everyone is interested in gut microbiome these days. Data is big business including poo data.

              New report 'The Human Intestinal Microbiome - Therapies and Diagnostics: The Science, Opportunities and Challenges' published

              Bactolife receives USD 5 million in new funding to address gastrointestinal infections worldwide

              A successful depopulation agenda requires high excess death rates, lower birth rates and for the majority to vilify those that question it.

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                Well if you think of the human gut microbiome like a flower meadow which requires all the different species to be a healthy ecosystem its no surprise this is the truth... Humans are not meant to live in sterile environments.. If you have a diverse gut microbiome it works like a well oiled machine and the different species all complement AND balance eachother out to provide a healthy ecosystem that makes us healthy. In ecosystems diversity brings stability, why not the same in human guts?

                If there is diversity taking out one part won't hurt. No diversity means taking out one part can make it all come crashing down.

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                  Regina @Peatly
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                  @Peatly I don't think Georgi loses site of his goals and committment to truth finding. I think he understands this (attached) wisdom and recognizes it as a strategy or the art of being commensal. argue_w_fools.jpg

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                    @Peatly said in How Your Microbiome Influences Your Dietary Recommendations - Interview With Georgi Dinkov:

                    The idea that Dr Peat missed something which Mercola is going to clarify is highly unlikely. I could only manage 20mins of this. 5mins in Mercola tells us what Dr Peat missed regarding microbiome then goes on to repeat that he was wrong about fructose too.

                    And in the preceding 5 minutes he shakes his own desk with enthusiasm about "AI" and tries desperately to land a kiss on Georgi's arse having just slighted him.

                    It's all quite fascinating.

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                      Peatly @A Former User
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                      @A-Former-User said in How Your Microbiome Influences Your Dietary Recommendations - Interview With Georgi Dinkov:

                      Well if you think of the human gut microbiome like a flower meadow which requires all the different species to be a healthy ecosystem its no surprise this is the truth... Humans are not meant to live in sterile environments.. If you have a diverse gut microbiome it works like a well oiled machine and the different species all complement AND balance eachother out to provide a healthy ecosystem that makes us healthy. In ecosystems diversity brings stability, why not the same in human guts?

                      If there is diversity taking out one part won't hurt. No diversity means taking out one part can make it all come crashing down.

                      The human gut microbiome is not like a flower meadow (whoever you are, you deleted you account so no debate can be had) - sometimes bacterial species get into the digestive tract and prevents normal functioning. Safe fibers help maintain a balance. “The whole small intestine in a very healthy person is sterile,” according to Dr. Peat. It is not about creating a sterile system in the whole organism but keeping the part that should be sterile clean. Even if someone can be tested and found to carry a particular strain of ‘whatever’, what remedy will be prescribed? Some of the probiotics, or even fermented foods, that people are sold as being healthy can be the opposite.

                      Genomic surveillance by interested parties WHO don’t have our best interest at heart is being advanced. I don’t fully understand what is going on so I am exercising healthy scepticism whilst I do the research. Failure to do so previously landed me in the hands of experts who did more harm than good.

                      Metagenomics-enabled microbial surveillance

                      Foolish me, @Regina there I was thinking silence is consent.

                      I think your meme is supposed to have wider application but for now I will restrict my response to this video. I can’t really comment about Georgi because I didn’t watch the whole interview so I don’t know if he was in full agreement with Mercola or not.

                      On discerning who is foolish or not; the problem these days is that relatively intelligent people are paid a lot of money to be stupid. You can’t be sure who you are dealing with. I rarely assume I am dealing with idiots.

                      @ThinPicking fascinating you say? I'm almost convinced to watch the whole interview

                      A successful depopulation agenda requires high excess death rates, lower birth rates and for the majority to vilify those that question it.

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                        @Peatly said in How Your Microbiome Influences Your Dietary Recommendations - Interview With Georgi Dinkov:

                        @ThinPicking fascinating you say? I'm almost convinced to watch the whole interview

                        Ah, not the content. They could be discussing shoelaces for all I noticed.

                        If I'm not mistaken. The Haidut is guarding his heart like a hawk. Which is probably what the framer covets.

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                          @ThinPicking Actually, I find listening to Mercola is a bit torturous but Georgi I never tire listening to

                          A successful depopulation agenda requires high excess death rates, lower birth rates and for the majority to vilify those that question it.

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                          • DavidPSD
                            DavidPS @Regina
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                            @Regina - great meme. I may repost it if you do not.

                            My recollection is that Georgi ends his interviews with something like "I hope this was helpful". He does not react to Mercola's speculations about figuring out something that Dr. Peat might have missed. He stays on his script.

                            Mercola is self promoting his products and the like. He is in the healthcare business and he always trying to create a larger following. In the law, some of what he does is known as puffing. I think of it as making himself look bigger than he really is; often it involves making depreicating remarks about others to make them look smaller. However, I do not think that his speculative remarks cross the line into an actionable liable for misrepresentation. It amounts to 'mere puffing' as the courts often state.

                            ““Effective health care depends on self-care” - Ivan Illich, 👀
                            ☂️

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                              ““Effective health care depends on self-care” - Ivan Illich, 👀
                              ☂️

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                              • BioEclecticB
                                BioEclectic @A Former User
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                                @A-Former-User said in How Your Microbiome Influences Your Dietary Recommendations - Interview With Georgi Dinkov:

                                Well if you think of the human gut microbiome like a flower meadow which requires all the different species to be a healthy ecosystem its no surprise this is the truth... Humans are not meant to live in sterile environments.. If you have a diverse gut microbiome it works like a well oiled machine and the different species all complement AND balance eachother out to provide a healthy ecosystem that makes us healthy. In ecosystems diversity brings stability, why not the same in human guts?

                                If there is diversity taking out one part won't hurt. No diversity means taking out one part can make it all come crashing down.

                                Bold, fluffy claims like these need citations, otherwise they read like an advertisement.

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                                  @BioEclectic said in How Your Microbiome Influences Your Dietary Recommendations - Interview With Georgi Dinkov:

                                  otherwise they read like an advertisement.

                                  Or in context, a young horticulturalist with an achy heart. Trying to make sense of themselves and the world in the context of their patch and labour on it.

                                  @BioEclectic said in How Your Microbiome Influences Your Dietary Recommendations - Interview With Georgi Dinkov:

                                  Bold, fluffy claims like these need citations

                                  But I'm not arguing, I do agree. Not to mention I'm guilty.

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                                    BioEclectic @bot-mod
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                                    @ThinPicking said in How Your Microbiome Influences Your Dietary Recommendations - Interview With Georgi Dinkov:

                                    @BioEclectic said in How Your Microbiome Influences Your Dietary Recommendations - Interview With Georgi Dinkov:

                                    otherwise they read like an advertisement.

                                    Or in context, a young horticulturalist with an achy heart. Trying to make sense of themselves and the world in the context of their patch and labour on it.

                                    I nearly had a similar thought but couldn't put it into words at the moment and was too hasty. Good observation,

                                    Now to watch the last half of the video i missed 🙂

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                                    • annisA
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                                      Diverging from the path this thread has taken, at about 1:16:28, more or less, Georgi @haidut tells us that he's trying 2,6-Dihydroxybenzoic acid to replace aspirin in the B1-B3-B7 cancer treatment. and it can be taken in 1/10 the aspirin dose.

                                      A cancer patient under hospice care who has never had conventional treatment is willing to try this.

                                      Does anyone have info about this? The places that sell it say that it's not intended for human use, e.g., if you go to their website,
                                      https://www.ebay.com/itm/275722146528?itmmeta=01HWP3YD4X0JF6YD7S0QNC08RQ&hash=item40325212e0:g:N7YAAOSwUN9j8-Ou&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA0LAOej5NWzA6OtN2bOTfmv4%2B0zRYXGU5PIXysqkwYG9cHZv7uGBj%2FeyrHu3xvmtEgI3nYi%2BD8uOaC%2FYal3qEK3rLL9Sn7s8as8EEBIjVZIV0E%2FF1eMyNt%2B1GuSAN5D5tlqWO3IXb8IEELfr4lFyeamAiB2Ew0sQ4rwFeNlhxtk4D%2F2xvoiuMgjy8xWrgrYb7tgnhKr6Yhnt%2BY1iQvAagJbquSG%2Fuq8z9du36bTk6%2BWn1noOFBeufEBjMmEGY%2FJY%2BmCeGVINcHIh8m7KQEUv%2FcyI%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR8bS-cPlYw

                                      Can I safely ignore these warnings? Until I learn more, I'll use aspirin.

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                                        A Former User @annis
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                                        @annis i'm not sure about the specific of your question in replacing aspirin totally with that changed form, but georgi on rpf on a post i am too lazy to look up rn says that oxidizing aspirin with MB is a decent way to get the product that is useful for treating cancer. i imagine and assume he means taking MB and aspirin concurrently.

                                        since MB should help in cancer anyways i don't think it is a bad idea. i would also recommend cortinon+ because it should go with the vitamin + aspirin treatment pretty smoothly.

                                        there's also the cancer treatment similar to the drug apatone that can be made by combining ascorbic acid with MB which yields dehydroascrobic acid and leucomethylene blue. the former is toxic to cancer cells because when it is taken up by the cell and processed into the further downstream form is creates a product that is toxic to cancer cells but normal cells can deal with it. the leucomethylene blue cycles back and forth between LMB and the oxidized MB as normal. iirc the dose for the combination is not too crazy either, it's something like 2.5g ascorbic acid and 2.5mg-5mg MB 1-3x a day.

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                                          annis @A Former User
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                                          @noodlecat59 Thank you for sharing these gems of information. I have most of these things and will try them.

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                                            A Former User @annis
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                                            @annis you can look up the apatone formula and dosage and copy the vitamin c amount and then approximate the MB quantity (apatone uses vitamin k3 as the oxidizing agent instead). i said 5mg MB because that's just what I remember, i think georgi said at some point 5mg of MB in one dose is fine, and he may have said 15mg total a day is a good dose due to the u-shaped curve or something. Apatone is also dosed multiple times per day iirc. im sure you can figure it out

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