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    Which antibiotics for gut issues and chronic fatigue?

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    • skywxlkerS
      skywxlker @A Former User
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      @mostlylurking thanks again. good to know. I just ordered some thiamin hcl.

      while we're on the topic, should I pair thiamine with riboflavin?

      I cant tell if its working or not, but riboflavin seems like something that would help me.

      I do have light sensitivity and eye floaters. in my youth I had migraines, but I'm not sure.

      my instict tells me to try B2 5p.

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        A Former User @skywxlker
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        @skywxlker said in Which antibiotics for gut issues and chronic fatigue?:

        thanks again. good to know. I just ordered some thiamin hcl.

        while we're on the topic, should I pair thiamine with riboflavin?

        I cant tell if its working or not, but riboflavin seems like something that would help me.

        I do have light sensitivity and eye floaters. in my youth I had migraines, but I'm not sure.

        my instict tells me to try B2 5p.

        There's a lot to be said for intinct. Elliot Overton has recommended niacinamide and riboflavin to take when high dosing thiamine. Of course, I can't find the source now, sorry. I relied on what I learned from Ray Peat regarding the dosage. I take 100mg of each of them, 4Xday. Other sources recommend higher doses for the riboflavin, maybe. Ray Peat said that more people are sensitive to riboflavin supplementation, so there's that. So I guess you will have to do some experimentation on yourself to learn how you react to it.

        Is the "5p" above a typo? Whazzat?

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        • skywxlkerS
          skywxlker @A Former User
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          @mostlylurking alright. sounds good.

          I'll update this post to see how things go. thanks again

          riboflavin "5-phospate"

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            A Former User @skywxlker
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            @skywxlker said in Which antibiotics for gut issues and chronic fatigue?:

            riboflavin "5-phospate"

            Eyedrops? Sorry, I'm not familiar with it. Although I have had more than my share of floaters....

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            • skywxlkerS
              skywxlker @A Former User
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              @mostlylurking No they're not drops.

              its just a form of oral riboflavin. It requires less conversion than the typical form of riboflavin you'll find in most products.

              I find it works well (not sure if it works for photophobia or eye floaters) and I believe its more potent so you don't have to dose as much.

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                A Former User @skywxlker
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                @skywxlker said in Which antibiotics for gut issues and chronic fatigue?:

                its just a form of oral riboflavin. It requires less conversion than the typical form of riboflavin you'll find in most products.

                I find it works well (not sure if it works for photophobia or eye floaters) and I believe its more potent so you don't have to dose as much.

                OK. I did not know about it so did a search and the results I found lead me to understand that it is "eye drops", to be applied to the eye. Do you have a link to the product?

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                • HarlockH
                  Harlock
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                  Is there a risk that antibiotics destroy enzimes capable of digesting milk ? Lactase ?

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                    FOR THE POTATO @Hando-Jin
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                      FOR THE POTATO @Hando-Jin
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                      @Hando-Jin said in Which antibiotics for gut issues and chronic fatigue?:

                      @skywxlker said in Which antibiotics for gut issues and chronic fatigue?:

                      amox in higher doses.

                      Ray warned against that one. There was some correspondence between him and someone posted on the retard forum, he linked to a study where it caused liver failure in some people, I think it was older people though. Doxy and minocycline and penicillin VK are safer bets.

                      What are you all your symptoms? is it an IBS type of deal?

                      Are you talking about Amoxicillin here?

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                      • Hando-JinH
                        Hando-Jin @FOR THE POTATO
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                        @FOR-THE-POTATO said in Which antibiotics for gut issues and chronic fatigue?:

                        @Hando-Jin said in Which antibiotics for gut issues and chronic fatigue?:

                        @skywxlker said in Which antibiotics for gut issues and chronic fatigue?:

                        amox in higher doses.

                        Ray warned against that one. There was some correspondence between him and someone posted on the retard forum, he linked to a study where it caused liver failure in some people, I think it was older people though. Doxy and minocycline and penicillin VK are safer bets.

                        What are you all your symptoms? is it an IBS type of deal?

                        Are you talking about Amoxicillin here?

                        yep

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                          FOR THE POTATO @Hando-Jin
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                          @Hando-Jin said in Which antibiotics for gut issues and chronic fatigue?:

                          @FOR-THE-POTATO said in Which antibiotics for gut issues and chronic fatigue?:

                          @Hando-Jin said in Which antibiotics for gut issues and chronic fatigue?:

                          @skywxlker said in Which antibiotics for gut issues and chronic fatigue?:

                          amox in higher doses.

                          Ray warned against that one. There was some correspondence between him and someone posted on the retard forum, he linked to a study where it caused liver failure in some people, I think it was older people though. Doxy and minocycline and penicillin VK are safer bets.

                          What are you all your symptoms? is it an IBS type of deal?

                          Are you talking about Amoxicillin here?

                          yep

                          Thanks for the heads up. Maybe more dangerous to people with retarded livers cause he suggest it being fairly safe on a different occasion.

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                          • skywxlkerS
                            skywxlker @A Former User
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                            @mostlylurking thought I replied.

                            but I just buy it off amazon. made by the brand "Thorne"

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                              A Former User @skywxlker
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                              @skywxlker OK, I'll check it out. Thorne seems to be a good brand.

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                              • HarlockH
                                Harlock
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                                anybody knows why some people claim that "antibiotics destroyed their gut" ?

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                                • GreekDemiGodG
                                  GreekDemiGod @Harlock
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                                  @Harlock https://x.com/outdoctrination/status/1757062340841714040?s=46&t=a8gKZoLMKC0o1r60b5az-g

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                                    deliciousowl
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                                    https://twitter.com/NStumphauzer/status/1757507769677070624

                                    randomly came across this tweet where someone claims they basically fixed their narcolepsy with clarithromycin

                                    might be relevant

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                                      allnighter
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                                      Some of your symptoms sound like mine (not all), I've also had the poisoned feeling many times.. I have mild crohns disease, according to a colonoscopy back in 2017.

                                      One thing that has helped me when I get real fatigued and body pains is taking bupropion, and the inflammation went down quite a bit, no more poisoned feeling and an increase in energy (probably because it increases norepinephrine). But I don't like being on pharmaceuticals and it wasn't curing the issue, just mitigating some of it.

                                      I usually go on it for 30-60 days and then go back off until things get bad again.

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