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unable to troubleshoot hypothyroidism, anemia...

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    winters
    last edited by Aug 10, 2024, 9:59 PM

    I've been attempting this bioenergetic diet for like two years almost but to no avail. I've had some success before, so I know what it's like to be healthier. But that was a long time ago. I've taken various supplements, trying to fix any nutritional deficiency that I may have come across. None of that has helped. I can't take coffee or aspirin because it makes me feel worse. There's no point in drinking milk, I think the calcium just ends up in the urine (it gets very foamy). I've gotten blood work done, these are the most relevant markers...

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    my creatinine and albumin also used to be above range... but that normalized for some reason. maybe because I've reduced my meat intake

    I just don't know what's going on. Maybe it's a toxicity of some sort?

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      Peatful @winters
      last edited by Aug 11, 2024, 10:17 AM

      @winters

      josh rubin at east west healing is a great resource to help you understand what is going on-
      Smart guy

      I think they are on instagram and FB
      Not sure about X

      Disclaimer: I never used them but know someone who personally did

      One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

      -DB

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        winters @Peatful
        last edited by Aug 11, 2024, 11:47 PM

        @Peatful

        It’s too expensive

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          Peatful @winters
          last edited by Aug 12, 2024, 10:31 AM

          @winters said in unable to troubleshoot hypothyroidism, anemia...:

          @Peatful

          It’s too expensive

          Not recommending his “program”
          I hate that shit

          Im recommending his teaching
          So you can get understanding to address your desire to troubleshoot

          One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

          -DB

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            cs3000 @winters
            last edited by Aug 12, 2024, 12:43 PM

            @winters what did you try for the anemia so far?

            "world," as a source of new perceptions
            more https://substack.com/@cs3001

            "Self-organizing systems decay only if they have assimilated inertia and — with a little support of the right kind— the centers of degeneration can become centers of regeneration"

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              Peatful
              last edited by Aug 12, 2024, 1:20 PM

              Here is a quick search.

              It includes Instagram, Facebook, and podcasts.

              https://www.google.com/search?q=josh+rubin+anemia+and+hypothroudism&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari

              One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

              -DB

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                Peatful
                last edited by Aug 12, 2024, 1:23 PM

                I’m at work and this is voice recognition but if I recall correctly, Josh thinks it’s iron overload due to copper imbalance and increased estrogen if my memory serves me correctly.

                I don’t follow them, but somebody I know sends me links all the time that does

                Do your due diligence and don’t outsource your health

                Best

                One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

                -DB

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                  winters @cs3000
                  last edited by winters Aug 13, 2024, 11:09 PM Aug 12, 2024, 6:39 PM

                  @cs3000

                  vitamin A
                  vitamin D
                  vitamin E
                  vitamin K

                  molybdenum
                  manganese
                  magnesium
                  chromium
                  selenium
                  iodine
                  zinc
                  copper
                  iron
                  boron

                  glycine
                  proline
                  NAC
                  taurine
                  arginine

                  thiamine (+ thiamax, benfotiamine)
                  riboflavin
                  niacinamide
                  pantothenic acid
                  pyridoxine
                  biotin
                  folic acid
                  B12
                  ascorbic acid

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                    Razvan @winters
                    last edited by Aug 13, 2024, 12:42 AM

                    @winters T3 should easily solve iron disregulation/ anemia. Looking at your RDW it's clearly iron involved in this.

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                      winters @Razvan
                      last edited by winters Aug 13, 2024, 1:46 AM Aug 13, 2024, 1:42 AM

                      @Razvan

                      anything that amplifies the metabolic rate is pointless or detrimental… this is why I haven’t been drinking coffee (and yes, I have tried tyronene to no avail)

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                        winters @winters
                        last edited by winters Aug 13, 2024, 1:56 AM Aug 13, 2024, 1:53 AM

                        so I was thinking it has something to do with glutathione… although I’ve taken lots of glycine and various other nutrients and nothing has happened so far. (TTFD supposedly depletes glutathione but I haven’t taken it in a while)

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                          Razvan @winters
                          last edited by Aug 13, 2024, 2:11 AM

                          @winters T3 regulates iron, ceuroplasmin, copper in the liver. Caffeine makes things worse because it depletes iron.
                          If T3 didnt work you should try mega dosing K2 with high dosage b2 for a while. K2 in high dosages raises EPOO and RBC and B2 regulates iron from the liver into hemoglobin. I think this combo should raise hemoglobin pretty quickly. It did for me.

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                            winters @Razvan
                            last edited by winters Aug 13, 2024, 2:28 AM Aug 13, 2024, 2:27 AM

                            @Razvan

                            I’ve taken plenty of riboflavin and vitamin K2… you seem certain that this is about iron. From what I’ve gathered before, it seems to be hemolytic anemia or aplastic anemia. Which is why I’ve suspected glutathione deficiency, glyphosate, etc.

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                              Razvan @winters
                              last edited by Aug 13, 2024, 4:08 AM

                              @winters High RDW from my knowledge is always about Iron.

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                                Razvan @winters
                                last edited by Aug 13, 2024, 4:09 AM

                                @winters how is your ferritin? Transferrin and hemoglobin?

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                                  cs3000 @winters
                                  last edited by cs3000 Aug 13, 2024, 1:34 PM Aug 13, 2024, 1:29 PM

                                  @winters Ok no iron trial yet then, whats your typical diet & what supplements are you taking?

                                  from what I read the MPV can still be that low >7.2 in commonly "healthy" people , so sometimes can indicate a bone marrow problem but not necessarily. But yeah RDW commonly high with iron anemia as razvan said https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2766669/

                                  stuff like metal toxicity / oxidative stress / or lacking protection through glutathione catalase can effect red blood cells. autoimmune RBC destruction from viral infection or IgG,

                                  but if youre losing more iron than youre taking in over time, only iron is gonna fix the effects of iron depletion properly right.

                                  u already ruled out the B vitamin & copper anemias (copper deficiency can be mistaken for bone marrow problem). we usually lose 1mg - 2mg iron a day depending on activity level if arent actively bleeding. and only absorb a small % of iron. so it might be as simple as getting an iron surplus for a while.

                                  "world," as a source of new perceptions
                                  more https://substack.com/@cs3001

                                  "Self-organizing systems decay only if they have assimilated inertia and — with a little support of the right kind— the centers of degeneration can become centers of regeneration"

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                                    winters @cs3000
                                    last edited by Aug 13, 2024, 4:00 PM

                                    @cs3000

                                    I forgot to include it but I did consume plenty of iron and it didn’t help anything.

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                                      winters @Razvan
                                      last edited by Aug 13, 2024, 7:55 PM

                                      @Razvan

                                      I haven't done an iron panel... but here's my latest CBC:

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                                        cs3000 @winters
                                        last edited by Aug 14, 2024, 7:33 AM

                                        @winters u arent anemic by this , rbc and hemoglobin is good, what problems are you trying to solve specifically ? & how much protein & carbs do you eat?

                                        "world," as a source of new perceptions
                                        more https://substack.com/@cs3001

                                        "Self-organizing systems decay only if they have assimilated inertia and — with a little support of the right kind— the centers of degeneration can become centers of regeneration"

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                                          winters @cs3000
                                          last edited by winters Aug 14, 2024, 11:43 PM Aug 14, 2024, 11:25 PM

                                          @cs3000

                                          well, I still have some kind of anemia...

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