Race and IQ
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I think it would do you good to familiarize with Ray Peat's work, you know, the guy who inspired this forum. Because you made it clear you didn't even realize that racist genetics were incompatible with his work and it appears to be news to you that he wrote so fervently against them. As you will find in nearly all of his articles he at some point touches on this topic. It is a central theme of his work. Environment eclipse genetics, energy and structure are interdependent at every level, and we are regenerative adaptive beings always in development. Within that is the profound beauty of his message. I can't begin to rewrite all of Ray's articles to help explain it to you, nor would I care to. I am not naive enough to think I can change your mind, you are set in your ways and the only thing that will rehabilitate your philosophy of hate is personal development and life experience. But just know it's idiotic to impose them onto ray's work which is objectively counter to them.
You're holding tightly to the genetic IQ perspective because it helps you justify your abhorrent beliefs. I'm sure if it was disproven you would find some other reason to justify them. Even if it were true what good is it to justify subjugating and excluding other people based on an IQ test? There are many forms of intelligence not quantified by IQ. My dog has a low IQ, but in the world of scent she is a super genius and I'm a bafoon, to her that is a more important mark of intelligence. Say you prove afrikan bushmen have low IQ. Well they are super genuinses of survival and bushcraft. If you showed up to their culture they would think you are a monumental idiot who knows nothing, and would die helplessly. Another person may have a low IQ but be an incredible painter, or incredible mother, or have a profound compassion that improves the world and heals and lights up the day of all they encounter. In your context it's to justify hate. Which will get you no where. Its a toxic belief that creates a life of suffering. Everyone is best to outgrow whatever weird corner of the internet they trauma bonded with when they were lonely socially maladjusted adolescents.
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@buckminster applauds couldnt have said it better myself. Whats with the race obsession
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Han chinese are very high IQ on paper but all of those rekt videos and my overall experience working with them have proven otherwise, perhaps something to consider.
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are there any black adults who have managed to score 160 or above on an IQ test? Black adults always seem to top out in the 140-150 range. I assume the black race is incapable of genius. Norway has a massive problem with untested smart people, as the number of people who take IQ tests outside of the military are very low compared to many other countries. Yet, there are at least three Norwegians who have scored 180+ on IQ tests. I assume there are dozens of Norwegians with an IQ above 180.
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@Sugar you always talk with this authoritarian little fag tone, like we're supposed to ascribe to your shitty beliefs just because. It doesn't matter one single bit what Ray Peat's message is when said message is wrong. After several generations, the Dutch didn't suddenly have their skin turn black in South Africa. Similarly, southern migrants moving up north consistently get mogged by European or American natives on every intelligence test and it has been that way since forever. There are mountains of genetic studies showing the exact opposite of what you claim, and Ray Peat's silly takes on twin studies don't negate them.
You ought to refrain from using words like 'racist', 'beautiful' etc. when these are meaningless adjectives you use to try and give negative / positive connotations to ideas that are respectively valid / invalid. There is nothing compassionate about having niggers multiply and screw up every environment that hosts them. There is nothing compassionate about being deluded and trying to delude others.
@buckminster said in Race and IQ:
If you showed up to their culture they would think you are a monumental idiot who knows nothing, and would die helplessly.
Do you know anything about colonial history?
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@Norwegian-Mugabe said in Race and IQ:
The validation of IQ is interesting. People says that IQ measures intelligence as people with higher IQ are more likely to get certain outcomes that the bourgeoisie values. Yet, people with extraordinary high IQ gets generally worse outcomes than people with moderately high IQ. If IQ is a valid test of intelligence because higher IQ leads to better outcomes in certain areas, shouldn't the correlation trend be perpetually positive? Are most of the people with 150 IQ dumber than the median person with 135 IQ?
Several explanations that come to mind:
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extraordinary intelligence lets itself more to outside-system thinking. A 110 IQ person thinks "what can I do to get good grades/get into a good university/get promoted at my job?". A 140 IQ person thinks "what flaws are there in the system that I can exploit to obtain the most money for the least amount of effort?";
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consumerism part 1: more intelligent people might be more immune to marketing and general social pressure to consume, and thus might be less oriented towards material gain. A 110 IQ person will watch an ad designed by 130 IQ people to manipulate them into buying a new phone and will work hard to obtain it; a 150 IQ person will not be manipulated and thus will not be motivated to apply themselves more;
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consumerism part 2: less intelligent people might be less able to occupy and entertain themselves with their own thoughts and inner experiences, and thus require more external stimuli that cost money. Diogenes could enjoy himself living in a barrel, while there are people who would start self-harming after a couple hours alone in an empty room;
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energy requirements: a high IQ brain is an energy hog, and thus with a damaged metabolism such a person might lack energy to properly perform. It doesn't matter much if your IQ is 150 if you cannot stop yourself from falling asleep during the day, get tachycardia from walking 100 meters, or cannot focus enough to drive a car. It might even manifest itself in specifically mental impairments: Ted Kaczynski (IQ 163) has made groundbreaking mathematical discoveries and he had managed to evade the feds for 18 years, yet his big brain apparently couldn't realize that his brother would inform on him, or that no one will be influenced by his manifesto;
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social connections: the higher is your IQ, the more isolated you will be. There's military research that shows officers should be only so much smarter than their subordinates - too much of a gap makes effective leadership impossible, as the higher-IQ person cannot empathize and understand the lower-IQ one. First of all, this is a major life impairment - avenues for conventional success are pretty limited for a high-IQ weirdo. Such a person will be passed for promotions and might struggle to even get a job. It also makes one a high risk for depression, anxiety and such. Second of all, such an isolated person will be more immune to social pressure to conform, since they cannot fit in anyway. So, less motivation to have a "proper career" or to buy the right status symbols.
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