The Human Body's Bioenergy Field -A Major Heads Up!

@Kilgore It sounds very interesting. Maybe helpful? I don't know enough to have a real opinion though.

Here's a link to a video that might be a better place to start with the psinergy channel: https://odysee.com/@femalepit:3/122.-May-23,-2024:3 Sabrina starts talking around 4 minutes in.

@Kilgore said in The Human Body's Bioenergy Field -A Major Heads Up!:

Have you guys ever heard of primercubes ? This device is supposed to harness magnetic fields and help with pain relief, energy increase and provide other health benefits.

@Kilgore Your body has an anatomical body part known today as the Biofield. The Primercube seems to produce a "biofield" and is shown emanating from the cube in the video.

Biofield Science: Current Physics Perspectives

Volitional Control of Piloerection: Objective Evidence and Its Potential Utility in Neuroscience Research

But.... Who knows if your own personal biofield has been disabled/hijacked to the point that this primercube would be a lifesaving work-around. Or not. I'm interested in learning how to get my own biofield to work better.

Sabrina Wallace- HOW THEY CONTROL YOU.. FREQUENCY USE | BIO- FIELD | VYB OUT

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@mostlylurking said in The Human Body's Bioenergy Field -A Major Heads Up!:

Who knows if your own personal biofield has been disabled/hijacked

Who knows if it can be at all. Maybe it can be disrupted at best. A good way might be to load up on strange meds and eat kentucky fried chicken every day.

@mostlylurking said in The Human Body's Bioenergy Field -A Major Heads Up!:

I'm interested in learning how to get my own biofield to work better.

Peat and be kind. Probably.

Make a dedicated thread on journal/book references, have patience for conversation and we can get scientific about this.

@ThinPicking said in The Human Body's Bioenergy Field -A Major Heads Up!:

Make a dedicated thread on journal/book references, have patience for conversation and we can get scientific about this.

No thanks. I believe that this original post is appropriately positioned; people need to see it.

I believe that this topic is primary in my own decades long health issues so I'm going to continue to post to this thread. I believe that this topic needs exposure. Sabrina Wallace is exposing it. I edited my original post to add a link to an earlier Sabrina Wallace video, a good overview of the topic. It is long and technical; give it 15 minutes of your time before passing judgement. There is a long list of links to references below that video (click MORE below the video to show the reference links).

Here's the link to that video again; the discussion begins at 4:40 minutes, after the recitation of Ephesians 6 in Latin:
biomedical engineering
PANACEA = Personalized Autonomous Nano-cybernetic Artificial Ecosystems Architectures

I am going to post links to written scientific articles and I am going to share my own personal health experiences. If my posts are disrupting your sense of stability and you find the dissonance annoying, you can simply ignore me and this thread. If you want to add to the discussion in a productive manner, have at it.

Volitional Control of Piloerection: Objective Evidence and Its Potential Utility in Neuroscience Research
"Piloerection in humans is an autonomic response observed during a variety of strong emotional experiences, including fear and anger (Darwin, 1872), aesthetic pleasure (Goldstein, 1980), awe (Keltner and Haidt, 2003; Schurtz et al., 2012), and surprise (Maruskin et al., 2012)."

"Autonomic response" has to do with the autonomic nervous system. .

Thiamine and the autonomic nervous system

Mitochondria, Thiamine, and Autonomic Dysfunction

Nutritional Implications of Patients with Dysautonomia and Hypermobility Syndromes
*"Autonomic dysfunction, also called dysautonomia, is any change in the autonomic nervous system (ANS) that adversely affects health [4, 5]. Autonomic dysfunction can impact major organ systems including nervous, circulatory, respiratory, endocrine, and digestive and excretory systems [6–8]. This patient population is increasingly recognized for their complex gastrointestinal symptoms.

EMF Hypersensitivity and Thiamine
"Electromagnetic hypersensitivity syndrome (EHS) has gained increasing attention over the last few years. The syndrome is marked by a variety of non-specific symptoms following both acute or chronic exposure to electromagnetic fields. EHS symptoms manifest broadly across multiple organs, but are especially troubling when affecting the central nervous system."

"Is EMF-Sensitivity/EHS A Real Condition?
Despite conventional medical claims that EHS is primarily “psychosomatic”, there have been several researchers who have demonstrated real, physiological changes occurring in EHS. These changes are indicative of increased levels of oxidative stress like those found in multiple chemical sensitivity syndrome. Patients with EHS were found to have increased blood concentrations of malondialdehyde (a lipid peroxide), oxidized glutathione, and nitrotyrosine. Beneficial glutathione-associated biomarkers were lower in 20-40%, and red blood cell (RBC) superoxide dismutase and glutathione peroxidase activity were increased in 60% and 19%, respectively. Overall, this trial showed that 80% of EHS sufferers presented with one, two, or three elevated biomarkers of oxidative stress."

Effects of electromagnetic fields exposure on the antioxidant defense system
"Electromagnetic fields (EMF) are emitted by many natural and man-made sources that play important roles in daily life. More than 3 billion people across the world are exposed to EMF every day [1]. Lifetime exposure to EMF is becoming the subject of significant scientific investigation since it has the potential to cause crucial changes and deleterious effects in biological systems. The biological impacts of EMF can be classified as thermal and non-thermal. Thermal effects are associated with the heat created by EMFs in a certain area. This mechanism occurs via an alteration in temperature deriving from radiofrequency (RF) fields. It is possible that every interaction between RF fields and living tissues causes an energy transfer resulting in a rise in temperature."

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@mostlylurking said in The Human Body's Bioenergy Field -A Major Heads Up!:

Sabrina Wallace is exposing it.

Not constructively. But ok.

@ThinPicking Watch the video before passing judgement. In the beginning of the video, Sabrina explains that she suffered a stroke a short time back (at age 30?) and her interest in this topic came about when trying to recover from the stroke by learning something new. She also taught herself Latin during her recovery. This is not a stupid person.

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@mostlylurking said in The Human Body's Bioenergy Field -A Major Heads Up!:

This is not a stupid person.

I didn't say she was. I said some other things.

I bothered to listen to her for considerable time and weighed it with my "domain expertise" before forming an opinion. She can teach without claims that don't make sense and cause for alarm. In my opinion.

@ThinPicking The topic is alarming. Becoming alarmed is the logical rational reaction to learning about the topic. If you prefer to remain in a vegetative state, you can simply skip the entire subject. That's fine with me.

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@mostlylurking said in The Human Body's Bioenergy Field -A Major Heads Up!:

The topic is alarming.

The topic of biofields is not alarming. It's all over the literature and has been for a long time. Everyone loves sci-hub. And other more spiritual literature references calling it by different names are available. Elsewhere on this forum even.

Wild claims about how it can be surgically manipulated today, already, might be. It depends on a persons frame of reference I guess.

@mostlylurking said in The Human Body's Bioenergy Field -A Major Heads Up!:

If you prefer to remain in a vegetative state, you can simply skip the entire subject.

I'm not and I haven't. If you believe that's my state you're free to ignore me.

@ThinPicking said in The Human Body's Bioenergy Field -A Major Heads Up!:

Wild claims about how it can be surgically manipulated today, already, might be. It depends on a persons frame of reference I guess.

This does not require surgery, sorry. It's not voluntary either.

I think that this topic is too distressing for you at this time. When I first learned about it, I had to stay away from the whole topic for a few days to ruminate about it. Then I looked into it further. Yes, it is alarming. Keep in mind that this has been going on since 1995 so that's 30 years of activity and we're not all dead yet. I found that to be somewhat consoling in a twisted sort of way.

I checked out https://www.sci-hub.st/. The technical terms like "human biofield", "biosensor", etc. provided no results. However, "magnetic human body communication" did provide one result: https://sci-hub.st/10.1109/embc.2015.7318739

I think Duck Duck Go seems to be more productive. Here's the results for a search for "biosensors and bioelectronics".

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@mostlylurking said in The Human Body's Bioenergy Field -A Major Heads Up!:

This does not require surgery, sorry. It's not voluntary either.

To "surgically manipulate" is to precisely control. An extraordinary claim you appear to have been convinced of. And that you're subject to it right now. "According to the video" mind you.

Also you need to work on your literature search game. Sci-hub exists to receive DOI links you already have.

Rah1woot

@mostlylurking

The old Ray Peat Forum was exterminated; those of us who remain have been reduced to discussing Carrot Salad and well cooked mushrooms.

And what of it now? It's locked into a hysterical mode of thinking. EMF scaremongering in itself, like the "detox" mind-program run over there, is almost ideal for keeping populations in a state of fear, which was one of the main takeaways of the MK-ULTRA program (you know, the whole learned helplessness thing). EMF/RF cannot be nakedly seen and is as such an ideal paranoia-inducing agent. The same might be said with your relatively nebulous posturing towards "the powers that be".

I'm the type that leaves the WiFi off on my home router, and keeps my cell phone on airplane mode. I believe I can feel strong microwave communication signals (e.g., downloading large files over WiFi, especially as the WiFi AP is far away, and the radio increases power to compensate): they tend to make me nauseous, and the affected tissues tingle and sting. With respect to these things, I nonetheless think one has to have an agentic attitude, and not let the purity spiral derail all genuine advancement and productivity.

The fact that HOA groups (and the like) have successfully resisted efforts to install cell towers in their area, or by schools, suggests to me that real resistance, as made possible by organization, is still possible. You can decline to go through mmWave scanners at the airport in favor of an aggressive patdown.

Caffeine, sugar, and aspirin are helpful agents for resisting higher EMF environments, when passing through them (airports are probably the main offender, as are many electric vehicles). Inverse-square (and faster-decaying, in the near-field) power laws work in your favor to avoiding exposure.

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Oorah. Excellent.

Stick around.

@ThinPicking a video link or three:
Biosensors and the Future of Diagnostics she has a nice soothing presentation.

China completes world’s first 5G remote surgery in test on animal

Molly Stevens: Designing nanomaterials for therapeutics and biosensing This talk provides an overview of recent work by Dr. Stevens and the Stevens Group at Imperial College London using designer bio-nanomaterials, and how the versatile technologies they are developing can be applied to transformative biosensing, controlled delivery, regenerative medicine and new therapeutic approaches.

ThinPicking

"the future of"

"can be applied"

And remote controlling a robot over a cell network is not what Wallace is trying to raise alarm about.

I'm glad we are now in a sane place. Where what happens next requires your cooperation, participation and discernment.

@Rah1woot said in The Human Body's Bioenergy Field -A Major Heads Up!:

@mostlylurking

The old Ray Peat Forum was exterminated; those of us who remain have been reduced to discussing Carrot Salad and well cooked mushrooms.

And what of it now? It's locked into a hysterical mode of thinking. EMF scaremongering in itself, like the "detox" mind-program run over there, is almost ideal for keeping populations in a state of fear, which was one of the main takeaways of the MK-ULTRA program (you know, the whole learned helplessness thing). EMF/RF cannot be nakedly seen and is as such an ideal paranoia-inducing agent. The same might be said with your relatively nebulous posturing towards "the powers that be".

Yes, they like to keep the population in a constant state of fear. No doubt about it. You cannot think rationally when your hair's on fire. I don't know who "they" are. But this is very much organized/top down. I certainly never signed on for it. I'm pretty sure none of us did. And yet here we are.

I'm the type that leaves the WiFi off on my home router, and keeps my cell phone on airplane mode. I believe I can feel strong microwave communication signals (e.g., downloading large files over WiFi, especially as the WiFi AP is far away, and the radio increases power to compensate): they tend to make me nauseous, and the affected tissues tingle and sting. With respect to these things, I nonetheless think one has to have an agentic attitude, and not let the purity spiral derail all genuine advancement and productivity.

I don't own a cell phone. My home router WiFi is off too; the computers are all hard wired. I'm out in the sticks, 80+ miles from the closest commercial airport, on acreage (no close houses). My husband gets great reception for his cell phone anyway. There's a tower about 2 miles away. I haven't been on a plane since 9-11. I don't get dental x-rays either. I'm on well water here. I'm outside a lot; the sky is blue, not striated today. But they've been crisscrossed and striated before and I no longer think of "buttermilk" skies as romantic.

Yes, maintaining a sense of control is critical. So what to do? The first step is to acknowledge that your biofield (aura) is an anatomical body part and to reclaim your sovereignty over it. You cannot protect what you do not know that you have.

I've been emf sensitive in the past; I'm familiar with the sense of nausea. I'm much better now. I high dose thiamine hcl, 1 gram, twice a day. It's given me my life back. It normalized my glutathione level which was in the ditch due to high oxidative stress for decades (due to mercury toxicity due to childhood amalgam fillings removed the dangerous way).
link to article about thiamine: https://www.mercuryfreekids.org/mercury101/2018/1/21/thiamine-saves

The fact that HOA groups (and the like) have successfully resisted efforts to install cell towers in their area, or by schools, suggests to me that real resistance, as made possible by organization, is still possible. You can decline to go through mmWave scanners at the airport in favor of an aggressive patdown.

I avoid the airports entirely. Like I said, even though the closest cell phone tower is 2 miles away, the cell phone reception is great here anyway.

Caffeine, sugar, and aspirin are helpful agents for resisting higher EMF environments, when passing through them (airports are probably the main offender, as are many electric vehicles).

Coffee and black tea block thiamine function. Sugar uses it up so sugar consumption and thiamine availability need to be in sync. I used to take a lot of aspirin but I don't seem to need it anymore; the thiamine resolved my inflammation issue.

Inverse-square (and faster-decaying, in the near-field) power laws work in your favor to avoiding exposure.

You lost me. The 5G is constant; the 6G is coming in 2025. 7G is planned too. I'd rather have a game plan for what I can do to minimize my damage from it. I'm going to focus on my biofield and how to strengthen it from attack.

@ThinPicking said in The Human Body's Bioenergy Field -A Major Heads Up!:

I'm glad we are now in a sane place. Where what happens next requires your cooperation, participation and discernment.

Whatever gave you that idea? Nobody's asking you for permission or your cooperation, participation, and discernment. The psychopaths are running the asylum. Self defense is the order of the day. Reclaiming your biofield is key.

Ask yourself, how does your cellphone work. Wirelessly. How does that work? Getting info from your body is very similar.

Rah1woot

@mostlylurking

All fair answers. You are somewhat more reasonable than I initially thought.

You lost me. The 5G is constant; the 6G is coming in 2025. 7G is planned too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law

For an ideal point-source radiation in vacuum.

In the near-field, signals attentuate even more rapidly:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_and_far_field

All of that is to say that the relative coherence of your body's electromagnetic field is dramatically stronger than communication signals from cell towers. By the same principle, your cell phone is much more of a concern than cell towers. It means that even the suburbanite is not necessarily strongly affected if they make certain choices.

I'm going to focus on my biofield and how to strengthen it from attack.

Fair enough. Go for it. But as Ray Peat himself said (referring to time spent in Mexico), optimal personal health is not the highest virtue: a sense of responsibility and purpose instead is. Don't get trapped in the purity spiral. Indeed, a sense of purpose is probably one of the better ways to insulate yourself from electromagnetic offenses.

Reclaiming your biofield is key.

Something-something "purity of our bodily fluids". Not really. Fulfilling your purpose is key. Good health is a tool that can be used towards certain ends. As an end in itself it is masturbatory, ungenerative.

"You know you're doing something right when you lose interest in your particular health problem".

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@mostlylurking said in The Human Body's Bioenergy Field -A Major Heads Up!:

Whatever gave you that idea? Nobody's asking you for permission for your cooperation, participation, and discernment. The psychopaths are running the asylum. Self defense is the order of the day. Reclaiming your biofield is key.

The statement was about you. As you were endorsing content from someone who wants you to believe capability for identification and manipulation exists to an extent that it does not. If a person consents to a digital ID and is prone to be unconstructively adversarial with their speech. They may have a problem.

That attempt is made to manufacture consent of the governed does not absolve you of responsibility to pay attention. Are you paying attention to your legislature. Because nothing happens without it.

@Rah1woot said in The Human Body's Bioenergy Field -A Major Heads Up!:

@mostlylurking

All fair answers. You are somewhat more reasonable than I initially thought.

I'm almost 75. I've been sick a lot. I found Ray Peat's work in 2014 when I had been stricken with rheumatoid arthritis. I recovered via Peat's wisdom and a first rate 80+ year old endocrinologist (I'm hypothyroid).

I developed Wernicke's encephalopathy in 2020 after taking Bactrim antibiotic. It nearly killed me. I recovered via high dose thiamine hcl and the wisdom of Dr. Costantini. I've been high dosing thiamine hcl for 4 years.

Oh, also, I suffered organophosphate poisoning in 1993 which nearly killed me but I was saved by a great detox doctor via 100+ EDTA IV chelation treatments, hyperbaric oxygen chamber treatments, great handfuls of vitamin supplements (including 1600mgs of thiamine hcl daily), and an incredibly strict diet. I lost my short term memory; it took 2 years to recover my brain function via learning new skills (hand marbling fabric - I was a textile artist, but my arches fell).

So I've been around the block and I'm not going to just roll up into a ball of quivering jello; I'm going to work to learn what I can do, by myself, to survive.

You lost me. The 5G is constant; the 6G is coming in 2025. 7G is planned too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law

For an ideal point-source radiation in vacuum.

In the near-field, signals attentuate even more rapidly:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_and_far_field

All of that is to say that the relative coherence of your body's electromagnetic field is dramatically stronger than communication signals from cell towers.

You might want to look into that further. They (them, those guys, the psychopaths) have commercialized the access to the data (in your body) and now there's LOTS more entities lining up to log into it. Like the doctors (Medical Internet of Things), and other entities who would like to know health data like insurance companies, etc. I dunno if they are selling access to play advertisements in your head but hey, there's $$$ to be made from advertising! There's only so much body energy to go around....

By the same principle, your cell phone is much more of a concern than cell towers. It means that even the suburbanite is not necessarily strongly affected if they make certain choices.

I'm going to focus on my biofield and how to strengthen it from attack.

Fair enough. Go for it. But as Ray Peat himself said (referring to time spent in Mexico), optimal personal health is not the highest virtue: a sense of responsibility and purpose instead is. Don't get trapped in the purity spiral. Indeed, a sense of purpose is probably one of the better ways to insulate yourself from electromagnetic offenses.

Reclaiming your biofield is key.

Something-something "purity of our bodily fluids". Not really. Fulfilling your purpose is key. Good health is a tool that can be used towards certain ends. As an end in itself it is masturbatory, ungenerative.

One thing I've learned in my own health journey, if you don't have good cellular energy you are in deep trouble. For me, that means good thyroid function with optimized prescription desiccated thyroid AND high dose thiamine hcl (along with other necessary vitamins/minerals). In addition to sewing a quilt and replanting my garden (lots of compost work), tending my chickens and cooking good food, now I'm adding some biofield exercises to my day. It's a new skill; it will increase my brain function.

My own health is pretty good; my energy is good, my brain is working, my sleep is good. But I'm looking around at the people I know and I see a lot of problems, mainly cognitive. It could be that everybody's just getting old but something is telling me that's not the only thing going on. One clue for me is that the younger people also seem to be affected.

"You know you're doing something right when you lose interest in your particular health problem".

Yes. That's what marbling fabric did for me years ago. My husband thought I had lost my mind but I knew I was in the process of finding it.