Seidigestan / Utrogestan. OTC Progesterone contains Titanium Dioxide
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@sushi_is_cringe
I get Utrogestan free on prescription in my country and the Seidigestan or similar is only about 6 euro for a box of 30x100mg. I find it very effective.@Ena super
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@happycat It's super expensive here w/o prescription. Abpout 47 euros for a big box. Theoretically it should be worth it since the amount is so much higher than Progest-E but it's a lot less effective. Maybe I should add a lot of vitamin E.
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@Ena said in Seidigestan / Utrogestan. OTC Progesterone contains Titanium Dioxide:
how do you know that pure, unmixed micronised progesterone isn't white?
IDK by looking at Progest-E? It's not opaque at all... especially not white... so simple....
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@Ena Sugar is also white.... but when you dissolve it in water, the solution isn't white is it.... the same thing applies to progesterone.
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@sushi_is_cringe @CO3 IdeaLabs has a really good success rate with delivering their products - their progesterone product is a white 15ml bottle, and it gets through customs and air port security every time; even when there is 6 different bottles in the package / carry on luggage.
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The progesterone in Seidigestan/Utrogestan isn't chalky white but still white. Whiter that sugar dissolved in water.
I have deduced from other comments that Progest-E contains vitamin E, so it is not pure progesterone. The fact that Progest-E has a colour cannot be used to guess the colour of pure progesterone. For example, my own vitamin E powder is very yellow.
Unfortunately, I don't have the opportunity to travel to the US and buy Progest-E.
But I do have the opportunity to write to the Utrogestan supplier and ask. It's too bad they don't clearly describe whether the additives are in the capsule or in the contents.
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@Ena I have made Progest E before, and the colour of the vitamin E doesn't change when you dissolve the white progesterone inside it.
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@alfredoolivas Sounds absolutely logical.
The reason I mention colours at all is because @CO3 keeps using the colour difference between Utrogestan and Progest-E as proof that Utrogestan contains titanium.
And I don't think that's proof. Maybe true, but not proof.
Not a big deal, but @CO3 has asked us to use our brains, and then mine started warming up. Sorry about that
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I agree with the previous posters who said the white content is not titanium dioxide, but the micellarized, "micronized" phospholipids and sunflower oil. Think of the white color as tiny micrometer-sized fatty droplets.
Which is disgusting enough on its own, yes, and tastes unpleasant. But it's a small amount and best to be taken with some proper saturated fat so that a balanced ratio makes it more alright.
Progest-E is not dissolved in phospholipids. -
I have the label right in front of me. it does not mention anything about the titanium being in the capsule. It's quite literally a whitening agent in tons of products, and none of the other ingredients are whitening agents.
What's with this unstoppable desire to cope so blatantly?
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@CO3 they literally put that stuff in cookies in Canada to make the creamy frosting or whatever white
it's probably not that bad but tbh I know that feeling of taking a product or eating a food for health and enjoyment and being annoyed there is some goyslop ingredient in it. that goes for me with cookies here, I am gucci with white flour and palm oil cookies, the problem is the iron they put in the flour, and they tailor the dose for a "reasonable" (read: cuck soyboi 'I only eat 1/2 a cookie a week, that's all I need' vs. Chad 'I eat the whole pack of cookies in one go') dose yet the amount I eat gives a giga-dose of iron and im already eating red meat (soy boy cuck doesn't eat red meat because it is le bad) so I don't exactly need to have more iron
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I realize this may not be the right time nor place for the following but here it is anyway:
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https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/06/180620125907.htm possible link between white pigment and diabetes
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29930404/ titanium dioxide nanoparticles and lipopolysaccharide on antioxidant function of liver tissue in mice.
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4349471/ Titanium dioxide nanoparticles promote arrhythmias via direct interaction with rat cardiac tissue.
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https://phys.org/news/2015-12-modest-nanoparticle-brain-cells.html Modest level of nanoparticles may harm brain cells.
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https://suppversity.blogspot.com/2015/04/titanium-dioxide-nanoparticles-are.html Titanium dioxide nanonparticles toxic and pro-Diabetic.
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https://analyticalsciencejournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/jat.3150 Titanium dioxide nanoparticles increase plasma glucose via reactive oxygen species-induced insulin resistance in mice
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@sushi_is_cringe No titanium dioxide is not goyslop it is extremely poisonous. We have banned it in food here.
