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      A Former User @A Former User
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      bring the original learnedhelpnessback___ ... I miss him bros...

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        alfredoolivas @A Former User
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        @sushi_is_cringe Larping? As a famous mexican singer Alfredo Olivas? I clearly have mentioned that I live in the EU, I just set my username & profile picture as one of my favourite artists.

        @sushi_is_cringe said in Pro Metabolic Substances Tier List:

        @alfredoolivas dude why tf are you on ozempic? am I reading this right? in the pic you sent to me you're literally shredded. you were literally posting cool stuff about how pro metabolism makes you empathetic with your college m8s last year, what has happened since then? and now on here you are larping as Mexican or something. dude what is going on

        I have sent that picture to a few people when it came up in conversation. All those people came to me asking for advice.

        I spent lots of time trying to help all of those people (no the help did not consist of me recommending them supplements, like this list. I wasn't even using GLP-1).

        You were one of them, asking for advice, and this is how you repay me? I hope my advice helped, that's the whole reason I spend time on this forum and modding the subreddit.

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          A Former User @alfredoolivas
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          @alfredoolivas bro why are you you taking ozempic or w/e when you are/were so lean.....

          I appreciate you bro.. but please.. just do some sprints or smth,...

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            A Former User @alfredoolivas
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            @alfredoolivas bro... I like you... im just shocked....

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              A Former User @alfredoolivas
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              @alfredoolivas I apologize for calling you probably mentally ill... I fantasized about us getting bread and Irish butter in Dublin.. that makes me mentally ill too.. it was a projection..

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                A Former User @alfredoolivas
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                @alfredoolivas my love and admiration for the Irish has no bounds...

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                  A Former User @alfredoolivas
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                  @alfredoolivas pls respond

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                    A Former User @alfredoolivas
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                    @alfredoolivas dude ... please accept my apology... don't stop posting because I was being funny...

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                        A Former User @A Former User
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                        @alfredoolivas dm

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                        • alfredoolivasA
                          alfredoolivas @beriberi
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                          @dht fair enough. My view is there exists purity tests for steroids but not DNP, and it’s been tested by the community and apparently there’s magnetic metal contamination such as iron, but no heavy metal contamination. I found a test for a trenbolone product, and per 100mg, it tested positive for mercury, but 100mg would give as much mercury as found in a bite of sardines or something. Just my cope haha, I’m okay with it.

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                              alfredoolivas @alfredoolivas
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                              @alfredoolivas said in Pro Metabolic Substances Tier List:

                              However, if you do not turn testosterone into estrogen, it is a very stabilising, anti-cortisol and anti-estrogenic substance, that's effects are barely noticeable.
                              "Testosterone by itself is more of a quiet foundation than a raging storm. It keeps things steady, blunts stress, and subtly reinforces resilience without making a scene. It’s like having a solid, well-built engine—efficient, reliable, and not overly flashy unless you start tinkering with the fuel mix (estrogen)."

                              • The whole cell is a receptor and the effects of a substance depend on the state of the cell - that is why we all have different reactions to different substances, and as your cells change due to depleting PUFA for example, you will develop different reactions to different supplements

                              @dht This was kind of my explanation, probably PUFA depletion and thyroid and test acting as an AI

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                                  alfredoolivas @beriberi
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                                  @dht Hans Amato, who is probably PUFA depleted too, said he did a 600mg of Test E and 600mg of Mast E, and felt nothing.

                                  I think estradiol is responsible for a lot of the effects of testosterone, and since estradiol is controlled by PUFA, I think I can tolerate it without any excess dopamine and serotonin for example. Just my thoughts.

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                                      alfredoolivas @beriberi
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                                      @dht lots of crossover with androgens and thyroid. Both are beneficial to mitochondria, even the toxic androgens like winstrol.

                                      Both are anti-cortisol and estrogenic too

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                                        A Former User @A Former User
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                                        @sushi_is_cringe wtf crazy plot twist! Now everything makes more sense. Here I was thinking I was taking to some obese dude who couldn't put the fork down. Now the reason for his appetite struggles and poor response to thyroid are clear. Like hitting the gas pedal with no fuel.

                                        Alfredo, I hope you come to realize you don't need all those drugs to maintain a killer physique. Seriously, you don't want to end up like Zyzz.

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                                          alfredoolivas @beriberi
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                                          @dht well based on experience, observations and older studies to be honest, I have a “holistic 😂” theory that it is acting identical to progesterone in my body. Can’t prove it or justify it to anyone but myself.

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