Peating vs Acne

@polba idk never tried it sir

polba

@DavidPS Will try it, maybe summing up all methods possible will make me get of rid of it, thx

Luke

I second the red light recommendation. It doesn't work overnight in my experience. But it's good for acne prevention longer term (not years, but weeks).

You could start eating liver if you don't already. And oysters. If you live in a tropical country, you probably get a lot of sunlight and your Vitamin A needs are higher (eggs are good as well, but especially liver). You may have easy access to oysters in your country.

I think the carb/acne connection is mostly nonsense. But there are way too many reports on a connection between acne and milk. You'd have to test that yourself if it makes a difference. I think I've seen studies in the past that low-fat milk is worse for acne than full-fat milk. A2 (certain cows, sheep, goat) instead of A1 milk could also make a difference, meaning A2 could be better than A1.

Focus on food you digest well and that doesn't give you any allergic symptoms. The pineapple sushi mentioned could be great because like he said, it helps with protein digestion.

Regarding topical scincare you could try to find a niacinamide serum without many additives. It can work well, but also after a few weeks and probably not immediately. Stay away from aggressive skincare that just destroys the skin. I don't know if stuff like Clearasil is still a thing, but stay away from stuff like that. One exception could be azelaic acid, since it really helps and doesn't destroy the skin. Also stay away from accutane. It may get rid of your acne, but it's crazy stuff.

lobotomize-me

@sushi_is_cringe kt didnt for me

DavidPS

@polba - I agree. I think all of the suggestions are additive. As Luke pointed out, it does take time so do not be discouraged if you do not see immediate results.

polba

@Luke Thank you very much, this is the advice I was looking for, what should I eat apart from liver, eggs, oysters and pineapple? and how much a day? I'm consuming 1 liver a day and trying to keep up with at least a quarter of pineapple.

Luke

@polba said in Peating vs Acne:

@Luke Thank you very much, this is the advice I was looking for, what should I eat apart from liver, eggs, oysters and pineapple? and how much a day? I'm consuming 1 liver a day and trying to keep up with at least a quarter of pineapple.

Glad it was helpful. One liver per day (you mean an entire slice of liver?) could be a bit much in the long run. Oysters have the benefit that they are high in both zinc and copper, so you don't have to worry that much about imbalances. I would maybe start with 3-5 per week.

Usually for acne patients it's important to eat food they digest well. That's highly subjective, but fruit juice, ripe fruits and honey are a good start for carb sources and are well tolerated by most people (although the darker, more liquid honey varieties tend to be more allergenic). Also well-cooked potatos. Meat, eggs and seafood are usually well tolerated when it comes to protein sources. Dairy is a bit critical for some acne patients, like I've said, but you could try some goat/sheep cheese and/or Greek yoghurt from goats/sheep. For fat sources, coconut oil and butter shouldn't give you trouble, also cocoa butter.

It is true that some people see their acne improve and disappear when they go on a low-carb diet. Switching from a Standard American/Western crap diet to low carb/carnivore definitely has some benefits in the short to medium term (although you run into a lot of trouble later on). But in my personal experience you can mimic the benefits of low carb for acne if you eat easily digested carb sources like fruit juce, ripe fruit and honey instead of eating the garbage most Westers eat nowadays.

polba

@Luke I understand, So I could do around 5 livers a week and introduce oysters? I will completely remove anything processed from my diet, and stick to your advice

Luke

@polba said in Peating vs Acne:

@Luke I understand, So I could do around 5 livers a week and introduce oysters? I will completely remove anything processed from my diet, and stick to your advice

I think five per week is still too much in the long run. For most people one serving per week should be enough. But if you live in a tropical country, get lots of sunlight and have acne you can eat more, but I'm very sceptical about five times per week. Some people eat a smaller amount (like 30-50g) every single day.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23826827/ (Evaluation of serum vitamins A and E and zinc level saccording to the severity of acne vulgaris)
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32860489/ (Serum zinc levels and efficacy of zinc treatment in acne vulgaris: A systematic review and meta-analysis)
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16681594/ (Does the plasma level of vitamins A and E affect acne condition?)
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34348293/ (Association between Vitamin D Level and Acne, and
Correlation with Disease Severity: A Meta-Analysis)

So there's an association between the occurrence and severity of acne and lowered blood levels of Vitamin A, Vitamin E, Vitamin D and Zinc in acne patients. It may be that the lower levels cause or worsen acne, it may also be that acne patients have a higher requirement of these nutrients.

The liver and oysters should give you enough Vitamin A and Zinc. But even a single serving of liver per week gives you multiple 10,000s of IU of Vitamin A per week. So I doubt there's a need for five full servings per week, even in acne patients, and it could cause some trouble in the long run.

Feel free to let us know if your condition improves over time.

polba

@Luke Thank you for the information, I'll post on Experimental Logs weekly while applying the advice from the thread