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If cortisol and estrogen is the devil

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    OrpingtonClose
    last edited by Jan 31, 2024, 7:04 AM

    Why don't you guys advocate taking cortisol and estrogen blockers?

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      BioS
      last edited by Jan 31, 2024, 7:06 AM

      Most peaty substances reduce both cortisol and estrogen.

      Aromatase inhibitors like Exemestane and cortisol blockers like Mifepristone have a lot of therapeutic potential, there are just safer substances to try first before jumping on them.

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        OrpingtonClose @BioS
        last edited by Jan 31, 2024, 7:09 AM

        @BioS said in If cortisol and estrogen is the devil:

        Mifepristone

        Wait, is this the abortion drug? Is pregnancy inherently a stress inducing process?

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          BioS @OrpingtonClose
          last edited by Jan 31, 2024, 7:14 AM

          @OrpingtonClose No. It is a steroidal cortisol blocker that also has abortifacient properties, supposedly because it also blocks some of progesterone's actions.

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            Andreas @OrpingtonClose
            last edited by Jan 31, 2024, 9:23 AM

            @OrpingtonClose Because cortisol and estrogen are also needed, but in the right amounts. E.g. wthout cortisol you wouldn't get up in the morning

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              NangaParbat @OrpingtonClose
              last edited by Jan 31, 2024, 9:44 AM

              @OrpingtonClose If any substance is to be called the devil it is undoubtedly serotonin.

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                BigusDickus
                last edited by Jan 31, 2024, 10:38 AM

                Mr OrpingtonClose, blocking cortisol and estrogen will end your life in a few days. We need the proper release and cycling of these hormones. Instead of thinking elimination, think regulation.

                The man who believes that the secrets of the world are forever hidden lives in mystery and fear.

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                  hossboffman @OrpingtonClose
                  last edited by Feb 9, 2024, 9:59 PM

                  @OrpingtonClose In one of the Generative Energy podcasts, Ray speaks favorably of taking certain aromatase inhibitors, which are estrogen blockers. Progesterone is, in a sense, an estrogen blocker. So is aspirin. The same goes for mushrooms, DHT, and vitamin E. Substances that block cortisol are also recommended by Ray by name, such as aspirin again, emodin (in cascara,) pregnenolone, progesterone, DHEA, and sugar.

                  Ray does advise against certain estrogen and cortisol blockers. He says that letrozole and anastrozole (aromatase inhibitors) can be estrogenic in some tissues. Ketoconazole, a cortisol-lowering drug, causes severe androgen deficiency.

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                    basednigga2006 @Andreas
                    last edited by basednigga2006 Feb 9, 2024, 11:39 PM Feb 9, 2024, 11:37 PM

                    @Andreas said in If cortisol and estrogen is the devil:

                    @OrpingtonClose Because cortisol and estrogen are also needed, but in the right amounts. E.g. wthout cortisol you wouldn't get up in the morning
                    @Andreas said in If cortisol and estrogen is the devil:

                    @OrpingtonClose Because cortisol and estrogen are also needed, but in the right amounts. E.g. wthout cortisol you wouldn't get up in the morning

                    Ok then using a cortisol blocker / estrogen blocker in a correct dose (so maybe a small or medium dose) that don"t remove it 100% is the answer , 50-75%

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                      Andreas @basednigga2006
                      last edited by Feb 10, 2024, 1:29 PM

                      @basednigga2006 It is impossible to dose correctly, because there are many feedback mechanism involved, and interfering by just gripping into the spokes of the wheel is dangerous. It is always better to rely on your own body, if possible. Keep it healthy and well nourished.
                      And find out why your cortisol is high, and work on the root cause, not the symptoms.
                      But if you suffer under high cortisol, blocking it for a short time may bring you relieve and may be useful to bring you out of an acute situation. But not in the long term.

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