Is the modern rise in religion a cope for learned helplessness?
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@Sugar Religion has existed for way longer than the current conditions which are causing learned helplessness. We've been doing rituals for as long as we've been people. Girard talks about this.
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@The-New-Sun Spell this one out for me. You give all the credit for the massive advancements in life quality from 500-1950 in Europe after the proliferation of Catholicism to a vague concept of racialism. While at the same time you’re trying to convince that Catholicism is a destructive force. It’s beyond illlgical to think that at the same exact time period Catholicism had its golden age in Europe (which you’re portraying as poisonous) is just coincidentally the time that Europe rapidly expanded. Coincidentally at the same time Catholic Monarchies conquered and evangelized a whole hemisphere (it was just the race though right? It’s not like the Spanish Reconquista was primarily driven by Catholic identitarianism right?) Then, coincidentally, when Catholicism is abandoned in the early 1900s, coincidentally morals decline, family ties decline, fertility rates decline. And in all this you seem to think you’re against certain Zionist influences? When you’re walking hand in hand with their hatred of Catholicism which they’ve had for ages. And yet you still don’t see how the immigration is driven by low birth rates (a direct denial of Catholic social teaching on the prohibition of contraception), therefore leaving jobs open to be filled by cheap labor. Now Europe is importing immigrants from all the countries that still ah e some semblance of faith in God, while Europes fertility rates fall into obscurity. Do yourself a favor and look when the Turkish German worker program started that brought all the Turks to Germany. Now look at the fertility rates leading up to it. Now look when birth control was invented. Now see the Catholic teaching on contraception. Your own excuse for why Europe is suffering is proven to be from a neglection of Catholicism.
If you introduce a poison into an area, at the bare minimum you’d expect to see some sort of decline. Not online did Europe not see a decline, it blossomed in a perfect symphony as Catholicism brought forth it in glory.
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@dan-saintdominic
Every single response you just gave stems from misunderstanding of my points above. I refuse to keep framing everything under the scope of Abrahamic religion, the world does not revolve around Christianity and it never will. You can continue to believe your glorified view of how Catholicism has been the driving force of development in W. Europe for the rest of your life, maybe it will make it more tolerable for you. -
@The-New-Sun I’ll just keep it at what you said then. You claim that the problems in Europe are due to third world immigration. The most famous of these mass migrations is from turkey to Germany due to a workers program from a shortage of cheap labor. This program peaked exactly when Contraception became widespread in Germany. Contraception is forbidden in Catholic social teaching. So your own reason for why Europe is suffering, whether I agree with it or not, is directly solved by Catholic social teaching.
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The rise in religion is instead people who have tried to fill the void through other means (wokism, current-thing worship, yoga, dieting, extreme reverence for niggers) and still found it lacking. Sorry, there's no replacement for the real thing, a structured life in the service of God and His only begotten son Jesus.
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It's fun to analyze what Christians are like and what the church has done and whatever else.
But what actually matters is that God exists. And He is Jesus.
To talk about anything else is pointless.
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I don’t agree with the premise. Seems religion is on the decline for the vast majority. Among the very online, it is having a bit of a come back due to a reaction to the former consensus of r/atheism. Since that has fully run its course the trad religious larpers are next to be mocked as cringe, but some of their thoughts will live on for the next pendulum swing.
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Brother forget everything you know about Christianity from social media and read St John of the Cross or Dostoevsky or something
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@VirtueAgonist I second that!
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@Sugar to answer OP: yes
in the same vein: do not let the actions of the weak persuade your connection to God.
