Waking up at 3AM

eric

another possible culprit I just recognized: taking aspirin in the evening (6pm). going to cut that out too

brad

@eric When you say you've started taking it seriously, what are you doing? Diet changes? Thyroid? Could be helpful to diagnose.

eric

@brad said in Waking up at 3AM:

@eric When you say you've started taking it seriously, what are you doing? Diet changes? Thyroid? Could be helpful to diagnose.

Eliminated all major dietary sources of PUFA except eggs
Eliminated all grains, most complex carbs
Added lots of sugar to diet
Added gelatin to diet
300mg aspirin 2x a day
2 minutes of 830nm red light on thyroid EoD

Diet
Breakfast: 2 eggs cooked in butter, one piece of 100% grass fed bacon, 16oz fresh squeezed strained OJ, one cup coffee with milk

Lunch: Carrot salad, then 30min later, some kind of soup with lots of gelatin (oxtail, borscht), mexican coke

Dinner: 1/2lb 100% grass fed ground beef with liver and heart, gelatin added, Mexican coke or OJ or sugared milk

Before bed: Vanilla ice cream, no additives

throughout the day drink ~1L of sugared whole 100% grass fed raw milk

One dose estroban, plus an additional 2-4mg of mk-4.

Night and day difference in my energy levels, I feel energized well into the evening whereas before I'd hit a wall. Brain fog dissipated. Family history of hypothyroidism (every other member of my family is on thyroid). Got like 30 blood tests done this morning and I'm waiting on those to come back.

LinDaiyu

@eric I think you need more calcium there laddie.

brad

@eric Very nice, impressive work. What are your total calories and macros and when do you take the estroban?

eric

@LinDaiyu said in Waking up at 3AM:

@eric I think you need more calcium there laddie.

I made eggshell calcium powder for the first time today

eric

@brad said in Waking up at 3AM:

@eric Very nice, impressive work. What are your total calories and macros and when do you take the estroban?

I don't have a clue on total calories and macros other than that I think it's possible I'm under eating. I've lost 5 pounds since I started this, though that may have been water weight. I've had persistent gut issues with lots of bloating, and it's completely dissipated since I started peating. My stomach stays flat all day. I might try tracking calories since it should be pretty easy with how simple this diet is. I'm 5'11" and 158lbs.

I take the estroban in the morning, and the isolated mk-4 before bed.

Also I think I'm getting quite a lot of salt. I heavily salt my eggs, the soup, and the ground beef.

brad

@eric Sometimes when the thyroid is "waking up" background cortisol levels are revealed and that causes nervousness and little sleep. Not sure if that's what's going on here but if it is that then it should dissipate in a week or two.

eric

@brad great, thanks for the perspective. I'll stay the course

eric

last night I:

Skipped the nighttime K2
Skipped the 6PM aspirin (took at 3pm instead)
Skipped the ice cream
Drank a big glass of warm milk with lots of honey

well, no dice. woke up again at 3AM like clockwork and had trouble falling back asleep like I typically do. I didn't have any juice on hand so I drank another glass of milk with honey, and fell asleep maybe an hour later.

today I'll try

Eating more throughout the day
Taking more salt before bed

eric

Following up here, this problem seems to be getting better. I started taking progesterone, so that may have something to do with it, though I don't know what the mechanism would be. The time I wake up has been getting later and later, now it's around 6AM instead of 3AM, and I have an easier time falling back asleep. @brad 's assessment was probably correct

brad

@eric Glad to hear it's dissipating. Your sleep should actually improve in quality (observable by the coherence, vividness, complexity of dreams) with a well-functioning thyroid. I do take progesterone for sleep some nights when I'm feeling "wired." Red light, epsom salt baths, or magnesium (citrate or glycinate) also help. Cyproheptadine (very small dose) works wonders but it can leave me drowsy the next day.

Testiclies

@eric it's been a while - do you have any updates on this? You managed to fix the iisue?

Serotoninskeptic

@eric Sugar and glycine before bed helps me sleep through the night. Avoid high protein meals too close to your sleeping time