How simple are people?
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@lobotomize-me said in How simple are people?:
how can one "ask" god. and if you know how to ask god, how do you bypass the question of which god to ask if there are so many to choose from
E-motion is a conversation. Lie on it at your peril.
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@lobotomize-me said in How simple are people?:
The emergence of mental states from neural computation requires only these well documented exchanges
lol
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@ThinPicking As I said before, I'm not here to argue, I'm here to have a productive debate. So, as I mentioned, I'm happy to listen to your ideas about why I'm wrong or where my position might be flawed. But saying lol and making comments like "While you're busy with sports, others are busy with science" doesn't help me understand your stance
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@ThinPicking My opinion (which I’d be happy for you to prove wrong) is that we've come as close as necessary to understanding the fundamentals of our universe to recognize that the soul is a belief, not a fact
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@lobotomize-me said in How simple are people?:
@ThinPicking My opinion (which I’d be happy for you to prove wrong) is that we've come as close as necessary to understanding the fundamentals of our universe to recognize that the soul is a belief, not a fact
"Scientific" theories and experiments that you've never experienced yourself aren't facts, they're beliefs.
Feeling something isnt a belief, if you have a specific feeling and you call it a certain word such as soul, because the meaning/definition of it match your feeling, you have a soul
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@random what is the feeling you will describe as the feeling of a soul
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@lobotomize-me it might depend on the person. If you eat better foods including more raw foods, more sun exposure, less porn, less alcohool, you Can start to experience energetic states and feelings you have never experience before or not in a long time. Some of these energetic feelings you might associate with soul energy, some with divine energy
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@random 1.all the habits you mentioned prevent harm or improve dopamine baseline.
2. i asked what does it feel like in your opinion and you told me the ways to achieve a divine feeling / soul energy feeling -
@lobotomize-me said in How simple are people?:
@random 1.all the habits you mentioned prevent harm or improve dopamine baseline.
2. i asked what does it feel like in your opinion and you told me the ways to achieve a divine feeling / soul energy feeling1 who Cares? These are beliefs in top of that, you care about facts
2 i answered, i Saïd it might vary depending on the person, be specific if you ask what i my self specifically felt that i associate to "soul".
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@random wait so if I understand correctly, you agree with me that the soul is a subjective matter and not something that can be objectively identified in every human?
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@lobotomize-me said in How simple are people?:
My opinion (which I’d be happy for you to prove wrong) is that we've come as close as necessary to understanding the fundamentals of our universe to recognize that the soul is a belief, not a fact
We've come as close as necessary to make it a tangible scientific hypothesis chap. Stick around.
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@lobotomize-me said in How simple are people?:
As I said before, I'm not here to argue, I'm here to have a productive debate. So, as I mentioned, I'm happy to listen to your ideas about why I'm wrong or where my position might be flawed. But saying lol and making comments like "While you're busy with sports, others are busy with science" doesn't help me understand your stance
lol
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@lobotomize-me said in How simple are people?:
@random wait so if I understand correctly, you agree with me that the soul is a subjective matter and not something that can be objectively identified in every human?
Objectivity doesn't exist. Reality is what each person feels.
So the soul exists in the reality of some people, and may not exist in the reality of others -
@random said in How simple are people?:
Objectivity doesn't exist. Reality is what each person feels.
So the soul exists in the reality of some people, and may not exist in the reality of othersSatan-coded waffle.
@random said in Raypeat = infertility psyop?:
"relativism" Can be harmfull.
Schizo.
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@ThinPicking Not only is the idea that the objective doesn't exist incoherent, its also self-defeating.
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@jamezb46 said in How simple are people?:
@ThinPicking Not only is the idea that the objective doesn't exist incoherent, its also self-defeating.
Very coherent, there is no experience without a subject/person to experience it, all your thoughts and feelings happen inside you, so when you think about the idea of “objectivity” it happens inside you, a subject/person. so objectivity doesn't exist because you never experience an object without being a subject, your perception is always influenced by your experiences, your feelings, your instincts. It does not exclude having empathy and considering your perception of other feelings
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@random said in How simple are people?:
there is no experience without a subject/person to experience it, all your thoughts and feelings happen inside you
Not in isolation.
your perception is always influenced by your experiences, your feelings, your instincts.
Ok but if you take that to an extreme you might end up sincerely believing a desktop PC can read your mind directly in the present. And defend the idea like gollum to the ring. Or that the dose makes the poison and the concentration has nothing to do with it.
It does not exclude having empathy and considering your perception of other feelings
So too in reverse. I've moved a million miles in a direction I probably wouldn't otherwise have travelled for the science and art of others. Particularly in this "community". And that was often painful. It was an expense to me. Lucky someone gave me bioenergetic cheat codes for free. If I hinged on the feels I might prefer to go nowhere or off in to the grass.
Maybe it's the wrong way. You tell me Truth. Feel free to be cringe and witty. It's better than war.
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@random As I've written about here already, I think the kind of solipsism you espouse here is often the result of a low energy state. It's obvious that everything we see is channeled through our own personal experiences. Nevertheless we need to use objectivity in order to actually accomplish anything (including Peating itself, derived from objective/materialist principles of cellular function), even something as simple as crossing a street requires looking both ways for the objective car which might objectively harm you. It takes more energy to seriously believe in The Real than just oneself. But the fruits are much greater. Now you're actually starting to play the game.
The Abrahamic religions encode this as "faith" imo. Something that is effortful and takes maintenance. With various techniques for doing so.
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@Rah1woot said in How simple are people?:
@random As I've written about here already, I think the kind of solipsism you espouse here is often the result of a low energy state. It's obvious that everything we see is channeled through our own personal experiences. Nevertheless we need to use objectivity in order to actually accomplish anything (including Peating itself, derived from objective/materialist principles of cellular function), even something as simple as crossing a street requires looking both ways for the objective car which might objectively harm you. It takes more energy to seriously believe in The Real than just oneself. But the fruits are much greater. Now you're actually starting to play the game.
The Abrahamic religions encode this as "faith" imo. Something that is effortful and takes maintenance. With various techniques for doing so.
Opposite, I started thinking that at times when I reached a high degree of energy.
I'm not sure what you mean by solipsism, the internet definition is:
"the quality of being very self-centred or selfish.
"she herself elicits scant sympathy, such is her solipsism and lack of self-awareness"
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Philosophy
the view or theory that the self is all that can be known to exist.
"solipsism is an idealist thesis because ‘Only my mind exists’ entails ‘Only minds exist’"That doesn't correspond to anything I've said. What I said doesn't exclude feeling empathy for others and considering our perception of their feelings.
didnt say only self/mind exist, i said everything you experience happens with in you at least partly,
So yes objectivity doesn't exist because there is no experience without subjects.Acting on the assumption that things are real and have an impact, as in your example of the car, in no way implies that we consider our perception of the car to be objective.
