Refined beet sugar

sunsunsun

@CurmudgeonApple hmmm... Austria you say you don't say..... interdasting...

dapose

mag me

I just tried these jams from Turkey, SOMEHOW BEAT SUGAR FROM HIGH UP IN THE MOUNTAINS LISTED

https://garisar.com/?srsltid=AfmBOopElE9pHgWQQku6G4GGIyJGRzTVLOJ7px4pAlOa5kqRumClL6w-

Ingredients: Wild Rosehip (80 %), Sugar, Lemon Juice

It is produced using only beet sugar and real lemon juice with the traditional method, without additives, without preservatives; from mountain rosehip that grow wild in the high altitude of the Gumushane plateaus.

mag me

Also no citric acid no pectin

dapose

@mag-me said in Refined beet sugar:

I just tried these jams from Turkey, SOMEHOW BEAT SUGAR FROM HIGH UP IN THE MOUNTAINS LISTED

https://garisar.com/?srsltid=AfmBOopElE9pHgWQQku6G4GGIyJGRzTVLOJ7px4pAlOa5kqRumClL6w-

Ingredients: Wild Rosehip (80 %), Sugar, Lemon Juice

It is produced using only beet sugar and real lemon juice with the traditional method, without additives, without preservatives; from mountain rosehip that grow wild in the high altitude of the Gumushane plateaus.

Sounds incredible! Roses hips are super high in vitamin c! 🫜

cedric

For me brown cane suger is preferred choice

"The Seven Seas
Basic Vitamin Book
Helene Hodge
cit. from memory "rafination of sugar causes depletion of most chromium, zinc and manganese present in brown sugar"
All three are important glucose regulators.
Insulinase (insulin degrading enzyme) depends on zinc. (B5 ac.R.Peat?)

Sugar beet and MS- azetidine/proline analogy
https://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/2017/SamselSeneff_Glyphosate_VI_final.pdf
" 8. MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS (MS)
8.1 Sugar beet and MS
The world obtains 30% of its sugar supply from beet
sugar. While sugar cane is grown in tropical regions,
sugar beet requires a temperate climate.[...]
Studies on
migrants have shown that those who move from a lowrisk to a high-risk area tend to adopt high-risk only if they
migrated during childhood [105]. This implicates local
environmental factors acting before adolescence.
Tokachi province in Japan hosts only 0.3% of the
population, but produces 45% of the sugar beet consumed
in Japan [37]; this province has the highest rate of MS
among all Asian populations [106].
A fascinating proposition how sugar beet could
cause MS implicates a unique noncoding amino acid that
is produced by sugar beet, namely Aze. Both proline and
Aze have a unique structure for an amino acid: the side
chain loops back round to connect up to the nitrogen
atom. In the case of Aze, there are only 3 carbons in the
ring instead of the 4 carbons in proline (Fig. 2). It has
been shown experimentally that Aze can be inserted by
mistake into proteins in place of proline [38]."

LucH

@cedric said in Refined beet sugar:

Sugar beet and MS- azetidine/proline analogy

A Classic Misincorporation Risk

The "Geographical Correlation" Trap (Vitamin D Factor and "Lobbying" Angle" for glyphosate)
a primary driver for MS is a massive interpretation
playing on Fear: Sugar beets in the US are largely GMO and heavily treated with glyphosate, whereas cane sugar (historically) had different treatment profiles.
lobbying theory: the "villain" is likely Glyphosate rather than the beet itself.
Edit: Or how to get people considering a study by incorporating glyphosate into a common product. Well-targeted.

cedric

@LucH
Thanks for your opinion. I enjoyed your rhetoric pirouettes although they are halfways true.
Speaking about VD3 is important but there are many geographical factors influencing diseases-infrared energy is among them. Vit.D3 deficiency causation , like vit.C deficiency is always alluring and easy way to explain complex situations.
May be I start SM topic -there I will list many sometimes unexpected causes of SM and solutions.

This topic is about sugar and let it stay that way.
The fact is that azetidine is proline analogue in beetroot molasses and can be incorporated in casein by animals fed with beets .
This information is IMHO important but everyone takes own decisions.

LucH

@cedric said in Refined beet sugar:

The fact is that azetidine is proline analogue in beetroot molasses and can be incorporated in casein by animals fed with beets .

Right. As you may endure a cross-reaction between gluten and milk.
Less is best by the way, what ever the source is: beet or cane sugar. Sugar cane is deprived of useful nutrients too to assimilate it.

useful info:
From a nutritional standpoint, brown sugar contains slightly more minerals than white sugar: about 0.50% compared to less than 0.05%. These proportions are still negligible and have no real effect on health. Here's how it works in the USA: partially refined or "raw" sugar contains 97% sucrose when it leaves Hawaii and passes through a giant refinery in California to produce refined sugar, which is 99.96% sucrose. For Kleenraw (a quality label for sugar with molasses), they add 5% molasses; for light brown sugar, they add 12% molasses; and for dark brown sugar, they add 13% molasses. A special crystallization process is used for Kleenraw, designed specifically to create the illusion of raw sugar.
While some refining generally occurs at the source, most takes place in the destination country.
More details on my forum :
https://mirzoune-ciboulette.forumactif.org/t1707-le-sucre-de-canne-complet-est-une-arnaque#21555
=> whole cane sugar is a scam!

cedric

@LucH
I suggest reading the text about azetidine and MBP . MBP is important myeline protein rich in proline. Proline substitution by azetidine changes its function.

Proline,"queen of aminoacids" is heavily produced in pregnancy.
Pregnancy on azetidine could end with weaker myelin function.
Gluten and caseine are good sources of proline but it requires stomach acid production and gut digestion, next -carboxypeptidase/dipeptidylpeptidase or we can have problems with glutomorphins/casomorphins.

Fact-checked by Grok 4 weeks ago
Carboxypeptidase A1
Carboxypeptidase A1 (CPA1) is a zinc-dependent metalloprotease enzyme primarily produced in the pancreas as an inactive proenzyme

If someone would like excellent article about proline-queen of aminoacids
https://web.archive.org/web/20161125195452/http://www.twoje-odzywki.pl/l-prolina_-_krolowa_aminokwasow-a-33.html

https://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/21/20/7696
The Human Digestive Tract Is Capable of Degrading Gluten from Birth[...]
" **. The gastrointestinal proteases involved in gluten digestion: elastase 2A, elastase 3B, and **carboxipeptidase A1 are present from earlier stages of life"

cit.
"From a nutritional standpoint, brown sugar contains slightly more minerals than white sugar: about 0.50% compared to less than 0.05%. These proportions are still negligible and have no real effect on health."

They are important as a prebiotic factor. Lactobacilli need zinc, manganese. Some villi enzymes require zinc. Glyphosate is zinc chelator.
Polyphenols from sugar cane support Bifidobacteria.

https://pubs.aip.org/aip/acp/article-abstract/3186/1/020056/3333136/The-potency-of-juice-and-brown-sugar-cane?redirectedFrom=fulltext
Research Article| January 30 2025
The potency of juice and brown sugar cane (Saccharum officinarum L.) as anti-diabetic sugar based on their mineral, phenolic, and flavonoid content

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For me cane sugar/juice is like birch tree, maple tree juice. And silica is among them.