Finding T3 without prescription in Australia
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Hi
Iām in Australia and cannot seem to get my hands on T3. Iāve got every symptom of hypothyroidism and have had blood tests but Dr wonāt prescribe it. Any advice?
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@Shar_to_the_dae why canāt you?
There are always ways.
Fish head soup works fine. If you can get them. Hard to dose, and of course itās whole thyroid not T3.
Chicken necks with the thyroid still in is another bet.
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Same in Turkey too. I am planning on drinking sunflower oil and stress-maxing for 2 days. Then, I should be able to get a prescription for hypothyroidism.
Not financial advice.
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@TurkishPeater 4 liters of raw cabbage juice. Not financial advice.
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@TurkishPeater Isn't T3 available form the pharmacy in Turkey, without presribtion? (Tiromel)
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@TurkishPeater Cabbage juice will be better for hypo, absouletly autistic though dude get from a perscription from a mexican online pharmacy cynoplus u big bitch.
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@zeal cabbage juice lowers thyroid activity.
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@Ecstatic_Hamster that's what @TurkishPeater is trying to do
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@Shar_to_the_dae Most of the people in this thread are being wilfully unhelpful. See if anyone on RPF mentions experiences with various sources such as farmaciasdelnino.mx. (cynomel and cynoplus, the product ray took) I previously used that one but now use pharmapct.to (bitiron and tiromel although they have other options too), a 'bodybuilding site' which is even more iffy legally than the Meixcan pharmacy model. You won't get any proper order confirmation and shipping info with the latter, quite annoying.
If either of these websites indicate that they ship to your location, the only way to find out is to try, and then let people know your experience. Unless you find others asking the same ( I think there's a big peater community in australia so i can't inmagine it's impossible to find someone detailing their way of acquiring it
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@CO3 I am not trying to be willfully unhelpful. That is exceptionally insensitive and rude to say that.
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@zeal Nope. Almost everything needs a prescription except aspirin. Some people say you can get it but I think you need a pharmacist friend. T3 is not popular in turkey. Doctors are too much of a pussy to prescribe it. They only prescribe T4 which they think is "safe".
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@Shar_to_the_dae Hi there, fellow aus dweller here, farmaciasdelnino.mx used to ship to aus, and their customer service was amazing. Now the only mexican pharmacy (that I am aware of) that stock cynoplus / mel and ship to Australia is meds.com.mx Their customer service is terrible, and if you send any more emails than necessary they will send angry emails back lol. But I have ordered from them twice, once years ago and then again 6 months ago. The goods did arrive. I have heard someone from Aus say they made an order not long ago and meds.com.mx claimed they never received the payment.. So be willing to take the risk of losing your money.
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@SmileEnergy Farmacia del nino still ship to Australia. All you gotta do is ask
Payment is very easy now too, with Mercado Pago and Wise disposable visa card. Feel free to DM if you have any questions
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@CO3 thank you, this was kind and helpful. I do need to find this community in Australia.
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@SmileEnergy Hi fellow Aussie
oh thank you! Iāll check that out!
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@zeal thank you, Iām not sure how to DM you haha but Iām checking them out now. Have you ordered from them?
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@Shar_to_the_dae https://idealabs.ecwid.com/Lab-R&D-Chemicals-c20672606
Delivers to OZ made by Zeus
Tyromax = NDT
Tyromix = t4 and t3
Tyronene = t3 dose might be high so might need to dilute.
Enjoy with a vegemite sandwichPs I've found Tyromix to work well in small 2 drop doses
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@SalemSays thank you! Haha Vegemite on a spoon straight up
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Try look on bodybuilding websites
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I second http://meds.com.mx/, successful deliveries of T3/T4 to an aussie address. Pretty sure it's Schedule 4 and can be imported in small amounts for personal use. I tried a small order, like 2 bottles and it arrived. Then made a larger order and that came too. Though be cautious as always.
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@torporade when you ordered and then emailed your order number, did you get a confirmation? I followed all the instructions but no confirmation so a little unsure if the goods are comingā¦
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Are you open to the idea of boiling oysters in milk?
https://www.bioenergetic.life/clips/977b0?t=3473&c=69 -
@DavidPS this is amazing! I donāt mind oysters so itās worth a shot! Thank you
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@Shar_to_the_dae - I am glad to help. Let us know how it goes.
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It may be the iodine in the oysters and/or seaweed interacting with the casein in the milk. see
https://www.nature.com/articles/144205a0.pdf -
Almost anything (besides controlled substances) can be legally sold as "research chemicals."
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I'm always reluctant to answer these threads in case it's some glowie trying to fuck up our supply routes.
Generally though authoritards don't mind if you bring in enough for personal use. I've never had an Idealabs order intercepted.
Life giving store sell a bovine glandular that gets good reviews. Considering it's just an animal product you've got a pretty good chance of it not being seized by the border gestapo.
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@Shar_to_the_dae
Hi Im in australia and i have been ordering cynoplus and cynomel from mexico.they first say they dont deliver but then i email them and they do at my risk but the packages always arrive fine. they really nice.
If you go to a compounding chemist they can only give it to you with a script and even then its crazy expensive.
thats the site, enjoy.
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@Hando-Jin promise Iām just trying to get help
cheers
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@STH lovely knowing another Aussie Peater! I ordered from meds.com.mx but if I donāt get my order Iāll try that one. Thank you
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@DavidPS
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@Shar_to_the_dae said in Finding T3 without prescription in Australia:
@torporade when you ordered and then emailed your order number, did you get a confirmation? I followed all the instructions but no confirmation so a little unsure if the goods are comingā¦
Sorry for the delay. Each order I placed ended up with me getting an email titled "Order Process". I'd then pay via bank deposit (with order # in the ref field) and reply to that email saying I've paid and then attach some kind of payment receipt from my mobile app to it. Responses would vary from nothing at all, to confirming something like "New status: Order Sent to Shipping". Very inconsistent at times but I always got my orders, that is until I ordered some stuff that I should have done more research on, heh. In any case, if their customer portal doesn't update the status after paying for some time, I'd email them again.
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@torporade thanks for getting back to me. I ordered two weeks ago and havenāt received any communication whatsoever. I was scared to email them again as they say donāt send more than one haha. Iāll give it a go though! Cheers.
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IdeaLabs or Mexican Pharmacy.
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@DavidPS So I have just tried boiling oysters in milk, which to be honest was surprisingly tasty! I havenāt noticed a rise in pulse rate or temp, but Iām thinking I probably didnāt boil long enough (less than 5 mins as it started separating). Iām going to try again tomorrow and boil longer.
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@Shar_to_the_dae hello, Yes its really annoying isn't it!! I decided to take matters in my own hands, I've only ever used idealabs Tyronene and had to experiment on different doses - I was overdosing on it at one point, although I felt great but I don't think its necessary after a period of time. I've now realised its best to use smaller doses, frequently through out the day, so I have diluted two drops in approx 1 L pure water and then use a portion of this to add to my daily liquids, but only used during meals never when haven't eat for a whole & hungry. I don't feel confident to order from Mexico (mainly not wanting to loose money and not getting through to customs, I already know a family member loosing lots of money and packages that were other products) however I would consider it if necessary and now reading other peoples responses from Australia I'll definitely give it a go. With Idealabs its discrete when posted.
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@MJ_LZ how did you know you were over dosing? Was it just that you were at a point where you felt better and felt the dose should be lowered? Idealabs does sound good, I just really wanted to get my hands on cynomel/cynoplus.
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@Shar_to_the_dae - The issue that I have with boiling oysters in milk is the same issue that I have with fish-head soup. How does one control the dosage?
Ray Peat seemed to endorse the idea of boiling oysters in milk so I assume it works. YOu might want to try a longer boiling time (as you suggested). Another idea is to add casein to the milk.
@DavidPS said in Finding T3 without prescription in Australia:
It may be the iodine in the oysters and/or seaweed interacting with the casein in the milk. see
https://www.nature.com/articles/144205a0.pdf -
@torporade, @SmileEnergy how long did orders from meds.com.mx take to arrive for you?
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@scamp I just received my order today from meds.com.mx. Took just over 4 weeks. I was getting a little concerned but it arrived just in time.
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@Shar_to_the_dae buy experimental T3. Done.
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Just received Cynoplus from Farmacia del Nino.
It took less that a month to arrive in Perth from Mexico. -
@Shar_to_the_dae I was feeling erratic and heart palpitations. IDK maybe other factors were going on at the time too so cant really remember. I'm with you on the cynoplus sounds lot more solid to use. I'm considering it too.
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@MJ_LZ I started the T3 three days ago now but have noticed zero anything. My resting heart rate has dropped in fact. Iām taking 5mg twice a day with meals. When did you feel symptoms improve?