New "Mission" of RPF
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@C-Mex I think this guy is legit, people did ask these kinds of questions in the past. But it's clear the whole forum is in process of becoming a giant ad for Smith. Perhaps he offered a better bid than Mercola.
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@Barghest @C-Mex yes this is what I think too. Interesting that Garrett Smith and Erin Elizabeth (Mercola’s wife/gf) have been friendly on twitter... setting the stage for Mercola and any other Peat followers to be blackwashed as insane/dangerous and Garrett to save the day.
Background info on Erin and Mercola here - both pharma agents https://web.archive.org/web/20210623203759/https://www.waronwethepeople.com/sex-drugs-internet-fraud-the-secret-life-of-erin-elizabeth-finn-and-dr-joseph-mercola/
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@C-Mex Bozidar has been having pretty severe health difficulties and he seems to be a real person as it was said above. However I understand why the post set your alarms off. It's a very conveniently formed request.
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Maybe it was the broad nature of 'I've read everything already' and the way Charlie swooped in with ten minutes.
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Very interesting stuff.
Here's a Mercola article from yesterday which includes reference to both Ray Peat and Georgi.
https://takecontrol.substack.com/p/basic-tips-for-optimal-health
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I'm still not sure what to make of Mercola and Erin Elizabeth. I was following her for a short time on Twitter (although I didn't know she was related to Mercola) and one thing about her is that she is just not very bright.
Out of curiosity I found one of those tweets by Erin Elizabeth, and the impession that I got was that Garrett or one of his acolytes had been in contact with her tryiing to get Mercola to interview him (again, trying to hijack/divert from Ray Peat). It will be interesting to see if this happens.
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@C-Mex said in New "Mission" of RPF:
Very interesting stuff.
Here's a Mercola article from yesterday which includes reference to both Ray Peat and Georgi.
https://takecontrol.substack.com/p/basic-tips-for-optimal-health
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@C-Mex yes she talks all day about vaccine damage and how vaxes cause “covid”. Her role is to reinforce the existence of viruses which as we know the ruling class loves as a fear tactic. She’s also a big promoter of RFK who will argue for the need for “safer” vaccines. As if they could ever be safe or necessary.
This is a good substack and post on the gatekeepers https://dpl003.substack.com/p/the-gatekeepers-club
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So many cringe moments this week.
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@TheSir said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@Peatly said in A list of members banned from the Ray Peat Forum:
Not sure why Mephisto has been spared when others got banned for making more benign comments than this
It's due to Charlie's authoritarianism. Mephisto was taunting Charlie with: "just ban me already you prick". Of course, though Charlie most likely did want to ban him, this itch was overridden by his desire to not take orders from anyone.
A similar thing happened when Impero gave him the following ultimatum:
"So, which is it?
Are you taking the True Man of Honor and Integrity Way? (Posting your secret screenshot)
Or the easy way out? (Dropping the hammer)"
To which he replied "both", overriding not only the the isolated desire to simply ban Impero, but also his previous decision to not share more proof. He couldn’t simply ban impero because that would have meant yielding power to Impero's ultimatum. In order to avoid this, he had to additionally go against his own word and show proof despite previously saying that he won't do it.
I think this suggests that Charlie cares more about power than personal integrity.
Update: I am now banned too as a result of this post.
Excellent observations. And quite the patience you had to make them.
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I'm still not really down with the idea this is a top down or sideways thing. It seems to me idiocy is mostly organic. And spookily or not, they tend to find each other in the dark. Birds of a feather and all.
However ya'll are making some compelling observations. And Charlie's bull**** is awfully inconsistent. Why the hell would a flat earther (on Twitter) be talking s**t about "space weather" (on his "forum")...
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I've no doubt the "random number picker" in his "Restoration Giveaway" (
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@ThinPicking "idiocy is mostly organic" is such a great line! And I think it fits
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@ThinPicking hahah just like he "threw away $50k" worth of product from Life Giving Store
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I remain suspicious about spooky origins, but whatever the etiology, "Charlie" has remained anonymous for a reason. If I'm understanding things correctly, the domain owner can be traced pretty easily, but perhaps Peat believed this was not the person or enitity running the forum given the e-mail where he states that he still doesn't know who it is. Why the need for obfuscation? Peat wasn't one to speak openly about the suspicious activities he saw surrounding Blake College (if you dig you can find it) and likewise I believe he would have been hesitant to speculate any similar suspicions about the forum even if he had them. If no one knows who 'Charlie' is, how is it that he and his family members and his business are being threatened as he says they are if no one knows their names or location? Am I missing something?
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@C-Mex you can find his identity by looking up life giving store llc, I don't think anyone is threatening him, he probably just felt threatened by people looking into who runs the store and site, he even started mentioning he is involved with the store more since then. I guess he felt he had to come clean about that now when people were looking into it. Before that I belive he would just say it was ran by friends. The domain owner for the raypeatforum is hidden and idk how easy that is to find.
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'Charlie' has said specifically and on more than one occasion lately that his family and business are being threatened by people upset by the new direction of the RPF, and that people are threatening his family and his business. That was one reason I asked earlier if anyone had visited his store, because I got the impression that he had a physical store with a known location. There was some stuff posted earlier showing a domain owner easily available online, but Peat that he still didn't know who the owner was or where they were located. That's where I'm confused. If so easy to find, why would he say that? Maybe I'm making too much of it, but it just seems odd given what has happened since Peat's death.
Edit: The file I was looking at may have been for the store and not the domain. I must have gotten confused by the talk of the domain owner around the same time. So I guess domain owners can remain anonymous and untraceable? Sorry, I don't have any expertise in this area.
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Does anyone know when exactly Charlie became a Garrett Smith convert? Garrett only started aggressively going after Ray Peat followers in Jan. 2022.
This is how it started... replying to a pro-Peat tweet months later
The next month demeans Ray by calling him a “blogger”
By Jun. 2022 ramps up the anti Peat campaign advertising himself as the saviour
Notice that he’s anti-progesterone
Full attack mode going after Chris Masterjohn too (Chris wrote a rebuttal here https://chrismasterjohnphd.substack.com/p/my-response-to-garrett-smith-about
Criticizes Ray’s appearance and suggests he himself looks better
Suggests Ray was a federal agent - laughable
Derogatory language - “Peatard” was coined by Matt Stone btw
Denigrating Ray Peat followers as “angry”
All of this (there are many more examples) while putting out videos with a giant cross behind him to pander to his “fellow Christians”.
Then has the gall to “extend an olive branch” as if he hasn’t been provoking attacks for 2 years straight
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@ilovethesea Lol'd at "I never caught the a-hole virus though". To answer your question, in the OP of his log thread, created on Feb 1st, he wrote about his miracle health turnaround that took a little under 2 years.
