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    Haidut is poisoning our balls with dogshit solvents?! these solvents instead mog? find out in the next episode of dragonball Z

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    • sunsunsunS Offline
      sunsunsun @sphagnum
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      @sphagnum HN literally admitted to me over email that they did sell bad K2 product. you can ask them yourself. They seem like well-intentioned people but they, like many other "family-run" businesses don't know what good customer service is and probably operate on this assumption that their self professed expertise (which I dont doubt they have, although it is ironic that for all the hype they talked about their k2 supplement synth process and expertise that they couldn't even verify the quality properly before selling it) ) translates into the customer being willing to tolerate their bad business practices. Haidut's company has elements of this bad customer service as well (shipping wrong product, not ideal dropper bottle design and changing viscosity of solutions leading to product being spurted out and wasted when customer gets a new batch and expects the pressure needed to dispense to be the same, their caps breaking the bottles when tightened just a bit too much, etc) but what im saying is their research and types of products offered makes their bad customer service worth tolerating . HN not so much for me

      I mean when haidut's company comes down to it, is just a repackaging service for powders from sigma Aldrich , and to a smaller extent a go between for custom synths from labs. they dont offer a quality / quantitative guarantee. it's worth it for many people to pay $50 for an overpriced bottle of something rather than trying to get the powder themselves and do it, but tbh for easy to get stuff like progesterone and dhea, I got a hot plate with magnetic stirrer and some beakers and just mix my own now. saves a lot of money and I think the quality is fine. and for some reason I dont really trust their liquid synthetic thyroid products to not degrade, idk why, I have zero proof or knowledge about this, but id rather buy pharmaceutical thyroid products, same goes with their cyproheptadine, I pay the ridiculous price to get the tablets from a north american pharma company because there is virtually no question about if when a tablet says it has 4mg it has 4mg. haidut has never posted an analysis of any of his products.

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        sphagnum @sunsunsun
        last edited by sphagnum

        @sunsunsun
        Thorough assessment on both.
        I do also like that Idealabs offers different solvent options on some products which is a step above. I just wish they would offer a glass bottle option as the difference in packing price and shipping cost would be pocket change. If they charged the honest cost difference, I’d be more than happy to jump on that.

        Where’d you source cypro? The idealabs one did nothing for me, even if I went heavier than recommended. I started off super worried about oversleeping or being sluggish the next day, but I never even got baseline “well rested,” even when going heavy.

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        • sunsunsunS Offline
          sunsunsun @sphagnum
          last edited by sunsunsun

          @sphagnum I get the JAMP cypro from biosense in in BC Canada, its $130 CAD for 100 x 4mg tablets which is the normal price to buy it from a pharmacy in Canada. I asked them and they said they will ship internationally for anyone that wants it. If you want to try Indian pharmaceuticals it is available for basically pennies on the dollar but I've never verified quality. I usually buy name brand medications from domestic manufacturers when I can unless I see proof that the generic product is as good. name brand stuff is really expensive in comparison though.

          actually post like yours is why I didn't bother with idealabs cypro, someone on rpf also said the same thing, that it didn't do anything. meanwhile a quarter of the tablet (1mg) that I take has distinct effects. maybe the idealabs cypro is fine but I just dont bother risking it. once I got wuflu really bad and I sure was glad I had a bottle of Pharma cypro tablets because I was taking like 6 to 8 a day to help and it was a big help.

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          • alfredoolivasA Offline
            alfredoolivas @sunsunsun
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            @sunsunsun That is actually a mega find sushi. Pharma legit Cypro from Canada shipped internationally. Very commendable effort my noble sir.

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              alfredoolivas @alfredoolivas
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              for those interested: https://www.biosenseclinic.com/products/jamp-cyproheptadine?_pos=1&_psq=cypro&_ss=e&_v=1.0

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              • engineerE Offline
                engineer
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                another reason to hate the idealabs ethanol/SFA solvent is just how easily it fails at being a solvent, my 6 keto p4 bottle is filled with seemingly invincible crystals, while my tocopherol/MCT version isn't

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                • sunsunsunS Offline
                  sunsunsun @alfredoolivas
                  last edited by sunsunsun

                  @alfredoolivas np

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                  • hwisdomH Offline
                    hwisdom @sphagnum
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                    @sphagnum doesnt this solution have penetration issues?

                    MILF
                    man I love fasting

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                    • engineerE Offline
                      engineer
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                      so what is the consensus here? Haidut has said that the Idealabs plastic bottles specifically are resistant to ethanol (probably HDPE?) but it's not clear what the harmful skin effects would be.

                      Thread with more info https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/raising-serum-androgens-using-dhea-pregnenolone-and-vitamin-k.13505/

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                      • alfredoolivasA Offline
                        alfredoolivas @engineer
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                        @engineer Yeah he said it's HDPE.

                        HDPE is insoluble in ethanol, and has a molecular weight usually in the hundreds of thousands - you can't asborb it trandsermally, or even orally.

                        Even if the polymer broke down (maybe if you boil your bottle for a day), then the HDPE would break down into ethylene. Ethylene might have some endocrine effects (ethylene oxide does, but I haven't researched ethylene), but its a simple hydrocarbon that your body would get rid of very rapidly.

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