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    Haidut is poisoning our balls with dogshit solvents?! these solvents instead mog? find out in the next episode of dragonball Z

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    • alfredoolivasA Offline
      alfredoolivas @alfredoolivas
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      for those interested: https://www.biosenseclinic.com/products/jamp-cyproheptadine?_pos=1&_psq=cypro&_ss=e&_v=1.0

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      • engineerE Offline
        engineer
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        another reason to hate the idealabs ethanol/SFA solvent is just how easily it fails at being a solvent, my 6 keto p4 bottle is filled with seemingly invincible crystals, while my tocopherol/MCT version isn't

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        • sunsunsunS Offline
          sunsunsun @alfredoolivas
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          @alfredoolivas np

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          • hwisdomH Offline
            hwisdom @sphagnum
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            @sphagnum doesnt this solution have penetration issues?

            MILF
            man I love fasting

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            • engineerE Offline
              engineer
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              so what is the consensus here? Haidut has said that the Idealabs plastic bottles specifically are resistant to ethanol (probably HDPE?) but it's not clear what the harmful skin effects would be.

              Thread with more info https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/raising-serum-androgens-using-dhea-pregnenolone-and-vitamin-k.13505/

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              • alfredoolivasA Offline
                alfredoolivas @engineer
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                @engineer Yeah he said it's HDPE.

                HDPE is insoluble in ethanol, and has a molecular weight usually in the hundreds of thousands - you can't asborb it trandsermally, or even orally.

                Even if the polymer broke down (maybe if you boil your bottle for a day), then the HDPE would break down into ethylene. Ethylene might have some endocrine effects (ethylene oxide does, but I haven't researched ethylene), but its a simple hydrocarbon that your body would get rid of very rapidly.

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                  risingfire @hwisdom
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                  @hwisdom why wouldn't you just put androsterone on your balls? Preg doesn't directly hit the backdoor pathway

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                  • hwisdomH Offline
                    hwisdom @risingfire
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                    @risingfire im trying to stay natty for very mysterious reasons, and androsterone according to peat could mess with pituitary signaling in Le harmfull way, and pregnenolone is literally The backdoor molecule when it decides to go through 5ar and CYP17a1 and in a way I think it will boost the endogenous function not to mention produce the exact balanced amounts so that you dont get too much AlloP without DHT ykwim

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                    man I love fasting

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                    • engineerE Offline
                      engineer @hwisdom
                      last edited by

                      @hwisdom why not add DHT like 11-keto from plain old Idealabs to offset the androsterone?

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                      • hwisdomH Offline
                        hwisdom @engineer
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                        @engineer how would DHT offset androsterone also I'm tryna stay natty read my post again nigga

                        MILF
                        man I love fasting

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                        • engineerE Offline
                          engineer @hwisdom
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                          @hwisdom "so that you dont get too much AlloP without DHT ykwim"

                          too much AlloP without DHT implies you could have more DHT and be fine

                          DHT is natty because it's a Peaty way to achieve bioenergetics

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                          • hwisdomH Offline
                            hwisdom @engineer
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                            @engineer sry by natty I meant "not banned by WADA"

                            MILF
                            man I love fasting

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                            • engineerE Offline
                              engineer @hwisdom
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                              @hwisdom let me put it this way: the establishment wants you to have a low metabolism. If WADA doesn't want to play by the Peaty rules then that's on them

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                                risingfire @hwisdom
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                                @hwisdom preg is not the backdoor pathway. You need to read up. Why do you need to stay natty

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                                • hwisdomH Offline
                                  hwisdom @risingfire
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                                  @risingfire I kinda did read up about it bro pregnenolone does convert through cyp17a1 and 5ar into straight androsterone and dht skipping aromatize:able test entirely https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen_backdoor_pathway

                                  but yea I need to stay natty for very mysterious reasons, yes WADA are bitches, but I kinda have to play by the rules heres and its not changing anytime soon

                                  MILF
                                  man I love fasting

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                                    risingfire @hwisdom
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                                    @hwisdom you're skipping a bunch of steps. It doesn't work that way

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                                    • hwisdomH Offline
                                      hwisdom @risingfire
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                                      @risingfire well tell me how it works instead of vagueposting53626b7c-4fa2-40d8-9a74-3080c8cdd3f2-image.png

                                      MILF
                                      man I love fasting

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