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    Haidut is poisoning our balls with dogshit solvents?! these solvents instead mog? find out in the next episode of dragonball Z

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    • engineerE Offline
      engineer @hwisdom
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      @hwisdom why not add DHT like 11-keto from plain old Idealabs to offset the androsterone?

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        hwisdom @engineer
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        @engineer how would DHT offset androsterone also I'm tryna stay natty read my post again nigga

        MILF
        man I love fasting

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          engineer @hwisdom
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          @hwisdom "so that you dont get too much AlloP without DHT ykwim"

          too much AlloP without DHT implies you could have more DHT and be fine

          DHT is natty because it's a Peaty way to achieve bioenergetics

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          • hwisdomH Offline
            hwisdom @engineer
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            @engineer sry by natty I meant "not banned by WADA"

            MILF
            man I love fasting

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            • engineerE Offline
              engineer @hwisdom
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              @hwisdom let me put it this way: the establishment wants you to have a low metabolism. If WADA doesn't want to play by the Peaty rules then that's on them

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                risingfire @hwisdom
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                @hwisdom preg is not the backdoor pathway. You need to read up. Why do you need to stay natty

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                  hwisdom @risingfire
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                  @risingfire I kinda did read up about it bro pregnenolone does convert through cyp17a1 and 5ar into straight androsterone and dht skipping aromatize:able test entirely https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen_backdoor_pathway

                  but yea I need to stay natty for very mysterious reasons, yes WADA are bitches, but I kinda have to play by the rules heres and its not changing anytime soon

                  MILF
                  man I love fasting

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                    risingfire @hwisdom
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                    @hwisdom you're skipping a bunch of steps. It doesn't work that way

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                      hwisdom @risingfire
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                      @risingfire well tell me how it works instead of vagueposting53626b7c-4fa2-40d8-9a74-3080c8cdd3f2-image.png

                      MILF
                      man I love fasting

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                        risingfire @hwisdom
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                        @hwisdom I hate to say it but the younger generation is so retarded.

                        The backdoor pathway is androsterone to dht.

                        The "regular pathway" is preg to dhea to androstenediol to testosterone to dht OR preg to progesterone to androstendione(sp?) to testosterone to dht

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                          hwisdom @risingfire
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                          @risingfire the backdoor pathway is from 17OHprogesterone skipping testosterone literally what the fuck are you talking about

                          MILF
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                            alfredoolivas @risingfire
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                            @risingfire or progesterone to dihydroprogesterone to androsterone to dht I think

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                              hwisdom @alfredoolivas
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                              @alfredoolivas this is also true there are multiple pathways to DHT that skip aromatize:able androgens

                              MILF
                              man I love fasting

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                                risingfire @alfredoolivas
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                                @alfredoolivas yes that's the backdoor pathway I was mentioning. Just shortened from andro to dht

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                                  risingfire @hwisdom
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                                  @hwisdom ok buddy this isn't a common pathway. Expecting to raise your dht significantly by P5 on your balls is fool's gold

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                                    hwisdom @risingfire
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                                    @risingfire the convertion of p5 into p4 is fast and into DHP is even faster, DHP can and will convert into androsterone which is because of the massive amounts of 5AR expressed on scrotal skin, if you look at scrotal vs like normal skin application of testosterone its very evident that the DHT/T ratio is much higher when its applied to the scrotum, I could never look at some opportunity like this and expect it to be just "fools gold" especially when there are multiple cell culture studies show that p5 does actually indeed convert into potent pheromones as well as testosterone

                                    MILF
                                    man I love fasting

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