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    Covid Vaccine Long-term Effects

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      JaCoolBruh
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      For those of us who were doomed to take the vaccine before discovering the work of Ray Peat, what is to be done to mitigate the damage from mRNA vaccines?

      P.s. I got my last jab 09/02/2022. And I feel ever since my health has been going downward …
      Anxiety, heart palpitations, sudden dizziness, digestive issues ….

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        DavidPS
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        It may be the spike protein.
        https://twitter.com/twc_health/status/1764838879243215152

        “Medical science has made such tremendous progress that there is hardly a healthy human left.”
        Aldous Huxley 👀
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          “Medical science has made such tremendous progress that there is hardly a healthy human left.”
          Aldous Huxley 👀
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            “The preprint review, published on March 15, examined whether receiving blood from COVID-19-vaccinated individuals is safe or poses a health risk. Many nations have reported that mRNA vaccine usage has resulted in ‘post-vaccination thrombosis and subsequent cardiovascular damage, as well as a wide variety of diseases involving all organs and systems, including the nervous system,’ it said.

            If the blood contains spike proteins, it becomes necessary to remove these proteins prior to administration, and there is no such technology currently available, the authors wrote.

            Contrary to earlier expectations, genes and proteins from genetic vaccines have been found to persist in the blood of vaccine recipients for ‘prolonged periods of time.’”

            Concerns regarding Transfusions of Blood Products Derived from Genetic Vaccine Recipients and Proposals for Specific Measures

            “Medical science has made such tremendous progress that there is hardly a healthy human left.”
            Aldous Huxley 👀
            ☂️

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              Peatly
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              Sadly heart damage is common even in 'strong beautiful' people

              Excess non covid 19 mortality in Norway 2020 - 2022

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_vaccination_in_Norway

              Eugenics but not as we know it

              A successful depopulation agenda requires high excess death rates, lower birth rates and for the majority to vilify those that question it.

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                JulofEnoch @JaCoolBruh
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                @JaCoolBruh

                Effects from mRNA vaccine are likely related to spike protein effects. Spike Protein(and related inflammations) cause significant effects on cytochrome c oxidase and spike protein binds to ACE2 to enter cells and activate platelets-this is why spike protein can create fibrinogen-resistant blood clots.

                You can help to restore cytochrome c oxidase with copper(oysters and shrimp, supplements can be iffy), L-carnitine manages ACE2 expression, caffeine boosts CytoC activity, near infra-red light goes back and forth on its effect on cytochrome c seems to be fine though and has other benefits. Talk to your doc about getting a USP pure aspirin or a minimal additive aspirin and taking daily with at least 2mg Vit K2.

                Do you know if you have a MTHFR mutation?

                Look into a blood test for homocysteine levels- elevated homocysteine is related to negative outcomes of spike protein. Homocysteine levels are typically elevated due to vitamin deficiency of B6, B12, or folate.

                Anxiety, heart palpitations, sudden dizziness, digestive issues....

                Each of these can be a result of elevated serotonin and histamine via severe gut dysbiosis. There is evidence to suggest the role of severe gut dysbiosis in post-vaccine syndrome and Long COVID. You might consider nuking your gut microbiome and replenishing with fermented dairy. For sure, daily carrot salad and weekly activated charcoal.

                Consider talking to your doctor about cyproheptadine. Histamine accelerates spike protein binding to ACE2 and is elevated after spike protein exposure. You may consider looking into a histamine intolerance. Cypro is an antihistamine and antiserotonin.

                Greift nur hinein ins volle Menschenleben! Ein jeder lebt's, nicht vielen ist's bekannt, und wo ihr's packt, da ist's interessant.

                Ray Peat first-ever interview(July 1987 on UofO Student Radio)

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                  Peatly
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                  I can't recall which interview this segment is from (this is taken from notes)

                  Danny Roddy: "If forced to be inoculated, are there any supplements or diet that will counteract the mRNA or vaccine?"

                  Ray Peat: "The first thing is to consider the defences and resistances, how you can avoid getting it put into you, and if you can find alternatives such as certificates for pre existing immunity, or maybe a form of a vaccine that doesn't contain nucleic acids, because the present ignorance, the reason the experiment is being done, is because it has never been studied in humans before, and so you don't know what the outcome is, and as long as its experimental, on the surface, meaning we don't know what the long range outcome is going to be, and the animal evidence is that there could be terrible long-range effects, such as increased susceptibility to all kinds of infectious diseases, or to cancer, or to brain degeneration, or sterility. So, if you allow yourself to be vaccinated, you're taking a big experimental gamble, the outcome of which you won’t know as long as you're alive.

                  The fact that the so-called "variants" are tremendously increased in the people who had the vaccine, suggests that the disease effects of the virus and vaccine are essentially identical, and that is primarily through the toxic effects of the spike protein, and that is a fundamental and total promotion of inflammation in every system, hypertension, development of autoimmune diseases, everything you can think of, is promoted, which is promoted by angiotensin, is going to be a possible outcome of a vaccine, so the angiotensin receptor blockers, and antihistamines, and aspirin were known 10 or 15 years ago to block against the toxic effects of the spike protein. The toxicity of that protein has been studied now for a long time, and so the Chinese were among the first to realize that the angiotensin receptor blockers, antihistamines, and aspirin, simply by being anti inflammatory, were the first things to resort to."

                  A successful depopulation agenda requires high excess death rates, lower birth rates and for the majority to vilify those that question it.

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                    JaCoolBruh @JulofEnoch
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                    @JulofEnoch
                    thanks for the thorough answer. I apply most of Peat ideas already since a little more than a year. I take Aspirin or Sodium Salicylate regularly. Thiamine, Niacinamide, K2/D3 and an occasional 4mg Cyproheptadine pill that leaves me a bit tired and sedated the first day but great for the next few days. Maybe I’ll give L-cartinin a try.

                    Never had the opportunity to test for mtfhr. Current health issues are mainly digestive I think. The doctor gave me 10 days antibiotics course for h. Pylori 5 months ago and on the control checkup it was supposedly eradicated but the reflux persists….

                    Still trying to figure out. Things improving from last year definitely.

                    Thanks again for your valuable input!

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                      JaCoolBruh @Peatly
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                      @Peatly interesting conversation thanks for the input. This makes me less worried as I am already applying 2 of the 3 🙂

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                        DavidPS @JaCoolBruh
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                        @JaCoolBruh - You may also want to consider taurine. It is in phase 3 research.
                        Researchers identify amino acid that may play a key role for predicting and treating long COVID

                        “Medical science has made such tremendous progress that there is hardly a healthy human left.”
                        Aldous Huxley 👀
                        ☂️

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                          “Medical science has made such tremendous progress that there is hardly a healthy human left.”
                          Aldous Huxley 👀
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                            Yung Blyat @JaCoolBruh
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                            @JaCoolBruh feel ya, I almost died (don’t know how close I actually was, but suicide seemed like a great option for many months after)from the second moderna vax, with symptoms in almost every organ system you can imagine. I was out from my regular life for almost two years, but somehow managed to gain back a big part of my health at least short term, since we don’t know much about what‘s coming.

                            Before almost being killed I had no real interest for health and medicine. That changed the instant I realized that every doctor I‘ll see will either roll his eyes at me or be out of ideas before even starting. Same for government, politicians and media outlets, although here I knew 100% that they are in on it.

                            Either way, what I believe brought me back from the dead were several things. I researched the ever living fuck out of this topic, got on Angiotensin receptor blockers, beta blockers, tried a dozen antihistamines, did HBOT, TCM and finally, after about 6 months of hell I recovered to a liveable level. From there on out, my staple supplements were high dose Magnesium, Nattokinase (Nattovéna, 8-12kFU per day, McCullough‘s protocol is 2-3x underdosed), Quercetin (mine also has Bromelain) + Zinc.
                            Occasionally I‘d try spike-specific compounds like IVM, taxaracum, artemisia annua, andrographis paniculata, etc.

                            Interestingly Nattokinase was able to degrade my free floating serum spike from 80pg/ml to 20 pg/ml and spike in PBMCs from 13pg/ml to zero in a couple of months of 12kFU Natto on an empty stomach. To my knowledge there is no other therapeutic better at degrading free and cell-bound spike, so I will most likely keep taking it, albeit at a slightly lower dose or less frequently.

                            There‘s a whole bunch of people/practitioners who swear by different compounds or therapies. I‘m glad to talk more if interested.
                            Cheers

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                              DavidPS @Yung Blyat
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                              @Yung-Blyat - It is great that you made it through the ordeal. One long-term effect that I recently found out about is discussed in Persistent Damage to the Gut Microbiome Following Messenger RNA SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine

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                              I am not aware of the consequence of such a change. Do you know anything about it?

                              “Medical science has made such tremendous progress that there is hardly a healthy human left.”
                              Aldous Huxley 👀
                              ☂️

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                                Yung Blyat @DavidPS
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                                @DavidPS Thank you! I'm also glad I recovered this much. I know many other vax injured through a patient advocacy group we founded who haven't recovered at all, got worse, or have died.

                                I was aware of the effects of the vax on bifidus and tried a couple of probiotics that contain bifidus among others, but with no noticeable change that I could ascribe to the probiotics. Digestive issues also cleared up after a few months and have been relatively normal since.
                                Knowing that the (gut) microbiome plays a huge part in so many functions of the body, any chronic reduction in "good" (in appropriate amounts and ratios) bacteria will have direct negative effects, as well as allowing other, possibly bad bacteria, to take over the ecosystem that is you.
                                The implications are manyfold, since so many systems are closely tied to the microbiome and the gut. I'm sure there are publications out there that look at health outcomes of patients with differing levels of bifido bacteria, or any of the other presumably good bacteria.

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                                  JaCoolBruh @Yung Blyat
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                                  @Yung-Blyat Thank you for the thorough and helpful response. Im really happy you made it man!

                                  To be honest up to the moment I researched McCullough Protocol properly I thought it was nothing but another scheme for selling supplements. There are few publications on it and seems to be working.

                                  May I ask about the dosage/product of Quercitin and zink? I have a zink picolinate 50mg on hand not sure it’s appropriate.

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                                    Yung Blyat @JaCoolBruh
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                                      Yung Blyat @JaCoolBruh
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                                      @JaCoolBruh
                                      I think he is among the doctors who genuinely want to help the affected and so far, I haven’t seen or heard him do or promote anything that‘s not in our best interest - to the best of his abilities ofc. There’s really not much published on this specific topic (vax injury), as one could imagine. Almost no reputable scientist or journal wants to be associated with vax injury, for obvious reasons.

                                      As for quercetin, I used the NOW brand that also adds bromelain. I‘m not happy with the additives in it though, but it‘s a huge bottle so I‘ll finish it. I don’t know if their quercetin is any good, as it‘s sometimes quite hard to get ahold of certificates if analysis for every supplement I‘m taking. Maybe bulk supplements offers a food/pharma grad powder. I‘m also taking zinc every now and then, as it goes well with quercetin (acts as an ionophore, transports zinc into cell). I use california gold nutritions Zn Picolonate as it has no silica as additive.

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                                        JaCoolBruh @Yung Blyat
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                                        @Yung-Blyat how do you test for spike protein actually? Is there a standard blood test that a general practitioner can refer you to?

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                                          Beatrix @JaCoolBruh
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                                          @JaCoolBruh
                                          SARS-COV-2 serum antibodies IgG and IgM

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                                            Norwegian Mugabe
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                                            So many middle aged people around me are getting cancer. I am grateful that I did not take the vaccine. I have also noticed that younger people are struggeling more with colds after the copevid vaccines.

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