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    TurkishPeater
    last edited by Jan 30, 2024, 3:01 PM

    Is there any writing of Ray which talks about cacao? Did any one of you eat cacao daily? Interested in this.

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      Kvirion @TurkishPeater
      last edited by Kvirion Jan 30, 2024, 3:26 PM Jan 30, 2024, 3:16 PM

      @TurkishPeater I do. In small/reasonable doses.

      BTW https://biochemnordic.com/ray-peat-diet-chocolate/ - written by Ray followers

      However, there are some concerns about iron, some heavy metals, and some polyphenols in cacao...

      Ray himself wrote that cocoa butter is good https://raypeat.com/articles/nutrition/oils-in-context.shtml

      Haidut: "Cocoa should be OK even in higher amounts provided there is no heavy metal contamination. The latter is hard to ascertain unless one has access to a lab that can do the testing. The protein in cocoa is much more anabolic than casein or even meat protein so that alone makes a very useful dietary addition. Peat spoke about the anabolic effects of cocoa several times."

      A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
      Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
      There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
      And drinking largely sobers us again.
      ~Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism

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        CO3 @TurkishPeater
        last edited by Jan 30, 2024, 3:36 PM

        @TurkishPeater In my experience cacao is great. If you can find something from South America rather than Africa, I think studies have shown the heavy metal conmtamination to be much less severe. You can often taste it too. Excessively bitter, metallic chocolates are often African ones. If you can find an organic brand, confirmed to be from South America (a particular country being mentioned is even better) this is ideal. Same is true of the cocoa powder. Oxfam has good chocolates that don't contain lecithins, and probably produce cocoa powder too. It is very beneficial, the proteins in chocolate are anabolic and chocolate also contains selegiline

        Master Broth Recipe: https://twitter.com/thesquattingman/status/1737526599023526043 / https://recipeats.org/master-broth/

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          drain gang @CO3
          last edited by Jan 30, 2024, 5:25 PM

          @CO3 Yep! Currently sipping on some skimmed milk mixed with cocoa powder from Oxfam. Really tasty and doesn't contain lecithins!

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            Cat
            last edited by Jan 30, 2024, 5:49 PM

            Adding cocoa powder to coffee seems really beneficial... I've started doing it and I've noticed a complete lack of caffeine withdrawal when I do choose to go without caffeine for a few days.

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            Milk, butter, coconut oil. . .

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              TurkishPeater
              last edited by Jan 31, 2024, 2:23 PM

              Thanks for all the replies guys. I got everything I need.

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                aapkabazardelhi @TurkishPeater
                last edited by about 24 hours ago

                @TurkishPeater There’s no well-known writing by Satyajit Ray that directly explores cacao or chocolate as a topic. His works largely focused on storytelling, cinema, and social themes, and while food occasionally appears in his stories, cacao isn’t a central element.

                As for eating cacao daily—many people are now adding dark chocolate or raw cacao to their diets because of its health benefits, like antioxidants and mood support.

                If you’re curious about the health effects of chocolate, check out our detailed blog:
                Is Chocolate Healthy? Nutrition Facts You Should Know
                It covers types of chocolate, benefits, what to watch out for, and how to choose healthier options. Great read for anyone interested in adding chocolate to their lifestyle the smart way!

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                  DavidPS @aapkabazardelhi
                  last edited by about 23 hours ago

                  @aapkabazardelhi - Heavy metal contamination is also an issue with chocolate.

                  https://www.consumerreports.org/health/food-safety/lead-and-cadmium-in-dark-chocolate-a8480295550/

                  “Medical science has made such tremendous progress that there is hardly a healthy human left.”
                  Aldous Huxley 👀
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                    otto
                    last edited by about 18 hours ago

                    Peter Rogers MD has a short 1.5 minute video on dark chocolate products.
                    Youtube Video

                    All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

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                      eduardo-crispino @otto
                      last edited by about 15 hours ago

                      here is the truth pill on chocolate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv4wRtURwZw

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                        random @eduardo-crispino
                        last edited by about 14 hours ago

                        @eduardo-crispino said in Cacao/Cacao Powder:

                        here is the truth pill on chocolate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv4wRtURwZw

                        Legend

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                          alfredoolivas @CO3
                          last edited by about 13 hours ago

                          @CO3 said in Cacao/Cacao Powder:

                          Oxfam

                          That's cool that they don't contain lecithin! Thanks for sharing, very very rare find

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                            eduardo-crispino @alfredoolivas
                            last edited by about 10 hours ago

                            @alfredoolivas altereco doesn't either

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