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Mild cold exposure (16 degrees c) reduced circulating serotonin -40% (shifts into platelets)

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    cs3000
    last edited by Jun 17, 2024, 2:36 PM

    a thermogenesis mechanism from cold exposure, uncoupling (e.g from thyroid hormone) happens mainly in brown adipose tissue & muscle {when noradrenaline increases this , the mechanism is through noradrenaline increasing t3 locally, though increased deiodinase 2 enzyme activity}

    16–17 ° Celsius in light clothing was enough for a need to increase thermogenesis by shifting circulating serotonin and raising noradrenaline

    Serotonin inhibits this heat generating effect from cold in brown adipose tissue (through 5ht2b receptor), the serotonin transporter which takes serotonin away reverses this effect and allows brown tissue to generate more heat in response

    & the effect is lost in people with obesity partly from producing less noradrenaline from the colder environment, and already higher platelet serotonin
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s42255-023-00839-2
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      Verdad
      last edited by Jun 17, 2024, 3:41 PM

      I'm a bit confused is the reduction of circulating serotonin good in this case or bad?

      I know serotonin is bad in general and we want to have less of it but in this context I cannot tell if this reduction in circulating serotonin is bad or good.

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        MasterPeatler @Verdad
        last edited by Jun 17, 2024, 7:30 PM

        @Verdad Serotonin bad. All my homies hate serotonin.

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          basebolt @Verdad
          last edited by basebolt Jun 18, 2024, 1:43 AM Jun 18, 2024, 1:41 AM

          @Verdad

          https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/why-is-this-serotonin-receptor-type-bad.25497/

          "there is a difference between plasma and platelet serotonin, and it's my understanding the 5HT2B is plasma, which is the very bad serotonin" by user alywest

          and then

          https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/vitamin-k-and-other-naphthoquines-are-pro-dopamine-and-anti-serotonin.21548/

          "1,4-naphthoquinones stimulate serotonin uptake in platelets in a manner similar to other SSRE such as tianeptine and in opposition to SSRI drugs like Prozac (fluoxetine)." by user haidut

          So it seems like a good effect

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