NotShannalotte's Zoo

NotShanalotte

@doomerzoomer2 Thanks for posting in the Zoo, saved me a few clicks moving your post.

For those observing, I always ban users who make alt accounts. It's not against the rules to discuss non-Peaty ideas, but I expect more than a few links. Start a discussion, highlight or quote points you want to present, that sort of thing.

Users won't be modded for lazy posting, of course, but lazy posting and bait typically go together so such posts are something I always hold under scrutiny.

Peatful

What is going on here?

This is weirdly familiar, right?

@NotShanalotte
You say something like “I always ban users for using alt accounts”-
But you have been a mod here for less than a week, no?
I don’t understand
How do you always do that?

I saw the request for 2-3 moderators
And iirc
It was for two simple goals

1- no violent threats. Even in jest
2- keep bots / spam at bay

Here it is:

https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/2134/call-for-moderators

Im concerned

Sugar

Are you Brad's longhouse girlfriend? Why are you posting a bunch of users in a thread? Why are you even here?

NotShanalotte

@Sugar See my other post to you and Peatful, you should have a notification for it.

Truth

@NotShanalotte said in NotShannalotte's Zoo:

Here I will be collecting posts of users who technically haven't broken the rules, but serve as an example of bad behavior. If you have to ask, the answer is "Don't post in such a manner." Brad wants us to govern ourselves and not to have to invoke his status as a reason for doing things, so let's all build a welcoming forum culture that avoids the posts I'll be moving here.

Posts are preserved as-is and may be offensive.

Remember, if I moved a post here, I only didn't delete it so others can observe what not to do, and that I have notified the user(s) of the expectations upon them.

You called it a zoo, implying that the people whose comments you have, or had posted in this thread are animals in captivity that are under your control, that's bad.

I read the comments of the people you put in your "zoo",

Excluding your posts, there is no threat in the posts you have included in your "zoo", so no broken rule, saying "niggers", being "off topic" according to your criteria, having an alt account, evoked or recommended ideas that according to you are not Ray peat nor bioenergetic ideas, this is against no rule, so claiming that this is bad behavior legitimate for banishment according to the rules that Brad has defined, is false.

Is it forbidden to recommend things against the law, if so, the laws of which countries/states?

you praised a post, which evoked sexual slavery as positive because "it reduced Muhammad's stress", and you said it was an example of a good post, that's about your ability to moderate anything at the moment.

His post:

@VehmicJuryman said in Muhammad Pbuh, The original peater?:

This is just the natural diet of a pastoral culture like the Arabs, plus fruit due to living in the tropics. Not sure what makes Muhammad unique in this regard. Although I'm sure having a harem of slave women and captives, plus living off the profits of predation and banditry against his neighbors helped reduce stress. Still his inability to father sons and his personality disorders including psychosis and anger issues may indicate some metabolic issues.

What you Said about his post:

@NotShanalotte said in Lisan-al-gaiband noodlecat59's offtopic slapfight:

You didn't participate in the thread. Period. The topic was diet. User VehmicJuryman has made since made the same point as you but without the antics. If you had edited your post, you could have learned from his example.

You said that the comments of the user reading Al gaib and VehmicJuryman had the same point. the first is condemning pedophilia, the second is talking about sex slavery in a positive way because it reduced Muhammad stress, totally different.

@Peatful @ThinPicking

NotShanalotte

@Truth Any user could do nearly the same just by copy-paste instead of moving posts. It's not against the rules. that's your whole issue right? Likewise you have no right to complain about what I post.

Your reasoning states that I could call you every name in the book right now if I desire simply because it isn't in the rules. I will never do that, but I want you to think about it.

It isn't in the rules that I have to answer your questions either. But I try to do so to foster understanding by my own choice. Would you like me to ignore you instead?

Do you have any idea what would happen if every user treated each other that way, using racial slurs and God knows what else because there isn't a specific rules? It wouldn't take being a moderator to get users to leave the forum. I've watched forums die overnight that way.

The only user that I moderated outside of those rules, DoomerZoomer, was a user who was only asked to stop using slurs (not a moderator action). Then he went on a tirade of personal attacks about Peat being a charlatan. Upon his return he didn't even make a thread or compose a post.

I'll tell you what, DoomerZoomer would be done with a short cool-off timeout soon. I'll make a poll and see what the forum at large thinks.

We'll see what the will of the people is. My concern is that a casual observer sees bioenergetic/high metabolism == racism. Reputation is important.

As for the Muhammed thread my only post was to the two users arguing to stay on topic before that devolved. Your claim is a blatant lie you just told. I see by your numerous edits that you're still wrong.

IME letting threads devolve whether about Islam, Christianity or otherwise just makes it impossible for any related topic to ever be posted.

Still, I intended to move merge lisan-al-gaib's posts into one, and put that back in the thread. That is not why the user was banned.

lisan-al-gaib was put into what was supposed to be temporary containtment. They broke a rule but didn't know it. I spent all day dealing with that user when I could have banned immediately, who also seemed to hate me.

According to you, it's not in the rules I needed to do that and you have no leg to stand on.

@Truth you are al gaib. what game are you playing here with multiple accounts?

@NotShanalotte i didnt read this comment thread but it is obvious that @truth is that user with the arabic name you recently banned

This post is deleted!

Truth

@NotShanalotte said in NotShannalotte's Zoo:

@Truth Any user could do nearly the same just by copy-paste instead of moving posts. It's not against the rules. that's your whole issue right? Likewise you have no right to complain about what I post.

Your reasoning states that I could call you every name in the book right now if I desire simply because it isn't in the rules. I will never do that, but I want you to think about it.

It isn't in the rules that I have to answer your questions either. But I try to do so to foster understanding by my own choice. Would you like me to ignore you instead?

Do you have any idea what would happen if every user treated each other that way, using racial slurs and God knows what else because there isn't a specific rules? It wouldn't take being a moderator to get users to leave the forum. I've watched forums die overnight that way.

The only user that I moderated outside of those rules, DoomerZoomer, was a user who was only asked to stop using slurs (not a moderator action). Then he went on a tirade of personal attacks about Peat being a charlatan. Upon his return he didn't even make a thread or compose a post.

I'll tell you what, DoomerZoomer would be done with a short cool-off timeout soon. I'll make a poll and see what the forum at large thinks.

We'll see what the will of the people is. My concern is that a casual observer sees bioenergetic/high metabolism == racism. Reputation is important.

As for the Muhammed thread my only post was to the two users arguing to stay on topic before that devolved. Your claim is a blatant lie you just told. I see by your numerous edits that you're still wrong.

IME letting threads devolve whether about Islam, Christianity or otherwise just makes it impossible for any related topic to ever be posted.

Still, I intended to move merge lisan-al-gaib's posts into one, and put that back in the thread. That is not why the user was banned.

lisan-al-gaib was put into what was supposed to be temporary containtment. They broke a rule but didn't know it. I spent all day dealing with that user when I could have banned immediately, who also seemed to hate me.

According to you, it's not in the rules I needed to do that and you have no leg to stand on.

Yes, all that matters right now is you banning people who haven't broken any rules, so you're wrong on that score, I don't give a damn about your personal preferences in terms of what's good or bad.

According to the rules of this forum yes, you can call anyone any name you want as long as it's not a violent threat, if you have a problem with that, you send a message to Brad and say you'd like new rules.

You don't have to answer, I don't care about your answers, they're mostly incoherent and/or wrong, it's just to expose your non sense.

You're starting to contribute to a list of forums that are dying over night with your bad moderation.

Calling someone a quack isn't against the rules, whether it's Ray peat or someone else.

I didn't lie, you told lisan Al gaib that he.could take the other user's post as an example because he makes his point without enthic, the post this other user talks about sexual slavery in a positive way because it reduced Muhammad's stress, i linked the posts. You're wrong about absolutely everything, because the standard is Brad's rules, and no rules were broken in the posts in your zoo.

The thread about Muhammad is already "islam", it didn't "devolve into islam", the name of the post is"Muhammad Pbuh(wich mean peace and benediction upon him, formula that Muslims believers use) the original Peater", it talk about his attributes in Islam, so this post implies the OP's belief in Muhammad(pbuh), and in Islam and the stories of Muhammad's life, because he believes elements of those stories, and uses them as arguments.

Simple question, is it forbidden to recommend things against the law, if so from which country/state?

@Truth dude why did you make an alt to post that other stuff

NotShanalotte

@noodlecat59 You gave me a good chuckle but give it a rest, okay? Your concern is noted but I can assure you from lurking the old forum that Truth did this enough that I witnessed it several times despite all I did was use external search engines to find good posts. It's just how he is.

@NotShanalotte i am 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999% certain @Truth is al-galib.

@Truth why are you playing this game . why have you made more than one account to make discussions with...

@NotShanalotte no it's him i know him too, respectfully it's him. he couldn't hide his style and i suspected it even before he gave it away in the last post of his before he got banned

@Truth why do you refuse to answer ....? i know you have that alt al galib. that's you. just admit it.

@Truth im watching you sir.

NotShanalotte

@noodlecat59 I'll see what I can do to prove that. For now, you've had your say. Posting numerous times will just make it difficult for me to resolves this, so please stop. Sound good? If you have proof, send it to me by Chat so I can review it, please.

LetTheRedeemed

Guys, the humor casually shared would’ve been balked at just 30 years ago… look what we’ve become as a society. Be grateful we have a moderator with an emphasis on keeping a clean house…

it is not longhouse behavior to keep things in line that would honestly get you kicked out in real life for making a community’s serious effort a laughing stock.

There is a whole lotta slack for infantile behavior.

This is not twitter. The principle function of this place is not free speech, but sharing ideas related to bioenergetic principles. Honestly, demanding free speech everywhere one goes where that speech is not related to the topic at hand, is liberalism gone to far — proto-woke.

NotShanalotte

@LetTheRedeemed You're a class act as usual. I made a poll about the user that started this whole thing in this topic except I couldn't get the actual poll function to work. It would be a great help to have you and as many other users as possible vote on the matter.

doomerzoomer3

@LetTheRedeemed absolutely not a free speech zone, it's ray peat forum 2 with the usual disinfo and monetization
there was no humor involved, i called ray peat a charlatan and said this forum is ran by some jew
i substantiated the former claim with reviews :
https://www.the-nutrivore.com/post/a-comprehensive-rebuttal-to-seed-oil-sophistry for the effects of pufas & sfas on humans
https://humanvarieties.org for intelligence research where it has so far been demonstrated that the environment tends to not impact intelligence positively much at all, and any environmental effects tend to be idiosyncratic
you now frame this as banning for insults when you're just keeping the grift going