Help me in the next chapter of healing. Thyroid.

Starcrossed

I need everyone's opinion to finally heal. I wanted to start a new chapter tomorrow. I have posted about my heavy profuse menstrual bleeding for 6 years none stop every minute. I was at deaths door. Every doctor tried to kill me with their methods, especially the high dose birth controls. I eventually found an acupuncturist who was able to stop it temporarily but I didn't know she was making me more estrogenic by stopping the liver from circulating blood. It gradually got worse every time I tried the pinning sessions. I was very deficient in progesterone and it couldn't replace what I was missing. I was already damaged from SSRIs and sedative benzo withdrawals that I never recovered from in over a decade. Went to a naturopath thinking he could heal me but instead he caused this 6 year long bleed after giving me oral glutathione. Since it was oral form, it's obvious I had major gut issues mainly caused after the Benzo withdrawals. Theres a thing called Benzo belly. He focused on my Lyme disease (in hindsight symptoms were all from withdrawals not Lyme) but he never considered my gut.

I've always been cold to the core since then. During my benzo withdrawal days I had to sleep with a heater under my blanket. A literal heater and was still cold to the core. I've had adrenaline/high cortisol issues ever since. I eventually stopped acupuncture last year and this year I slowly started Progesterone powder and worked my way up to a high dose. 6000mg. I make it myself using olive oil and an overhead stirrer. I am no longer at deaths door but I'm still spotting blood. Progesterone healed some old symptoms but I need this to end or I will not recover my iron. I will remain at this dose because I know my damaged liver is not processing or absorbing all that progesterone. Which now brings me to my thyroid. I'm about to try T3 from Idealabs but a little apprehensive since I'm still spotting. My high hopes is that it will stop the bleeding and give me the T3 my body so craves. But I don't know enough about this. So this is where I need more guidance. My morning armpit temps are 96 degrees but oral readings are 98 to 99. I believe my heart rate is around 82, which seems normal but I'm afraid of T3 making it worse. Unless the heart rate is due to adrenaline and hopefully T3 can help here. You can understand my fears because I have no more blood to bleed but I've kept it minimal for the last couple of months with progesterone and I also don't need more of this fight or flight feeling. So please, if you get a chance to, inform me on what I might need to know. I was thinking of starting one drop of Idealabs T3 but only one sip a day. In case there are any emergencies. These are my thyroid panels before I started progesterone.

Thyroperoxidase Antibody HI 57 < 35 kIU/L

THYROID STIMULATING
HORMONE
1.76 0.32-4.00 mIU/L

FREE T3 4.4 2.6-5.8 pmol/L

FREE T4 15 9-19 pmol/L

Thanks for reading.

Jenna

have you considered an ablation-not peaty. But it was life changing for me.
B vitamins -if your liver can't detox the estrogen it just gets recycled-thats the way I understand it.

Jenna

@Jenna said in Help me in the next chapter of healing. Thyroid.:

have you considered an ablation-not peaty. But it was life changing for me.

B vitamins -if your liver can't detox the estrogen it just gets recycled-thats the way I understand it.

Thyroid might help-read Broda Barnes book and dive in-its not scary

Starcrossed

@Jenna Many thanks. but what is an ablation-not peaty? I started one sip of one drop of IdeaLabs Tyronene and got a headache but I'm going to gradually up the dose in weeks. I heard that too much methylation is not a good thing, Is that true? Especially some B types. I'm so glad thyroid is not scary. Thanks for the encouragement. What do you take?

LetTheRedeemed

So sorry @Starcrossed

I need everyone's opinion to finally heal. I wanted to start a new chapter tomorrow. I have posted about my heavy profuse menstrual bleeding for 6 years none stop every minute. I was at deaths door. Every doctor tried to kill me with their methods… acupuncturist…naturopath…

The hem of His garment 🥲

I've always been cold to the core since then. During my benzo withdrawal days I had to sleep with a heater under my blanket. A literal heater and was still cold to the core. I've had adrenaline/high cortisol issues ever since.

Coffee with well balanced meals and hefty dose of salt seem to heat up a lot of people (myself and family included). Think whatever pleasurable dose of fat/protein/carb that accompanies traditional comfort food. Maybe lower protein, with Great Lakes gelatin supplemented.

I eventually stopped acupuncture last year and this year I slowly started Progesterone powder and worked my way up to a high dose. 6000mg.

I would consider mixing it with a good vit E source, like tocovit. Ray’s progest-e invention served a few purposes… one big purpose was to reduce aromatization of progesterone into estrogen. I would consider that a big risk when supplementing any progesterone, especially that amount.

…liver… Which now brings me to my thyroid. I'm about to try T3 from Idealabs but a little apprehensive since I'm still spotting. My high hopes is that it will stop the bleeding and give me the T3 my body so craves. But I don't know enough about this. So this is where I need more guidance.

T3 is great for healing the liver. Also consider pointing red light on the liver. I believe I noticed improvement faster when I added that.

My morning armpit temps are 96 degrees but oral readings are 98 to 99. I believe my heart rate is around 82, which seems normal but I'm afraid of T3 making it worse.

Unfortunately I’m not a labs pro, so hopefully someone else chimes in, but I recall from my own cessions with Danny and my own research from fixing my probs, that high morning temps can often be a sign of high adrenaline (same with blood pressure) — your body is all over the place in the morning, which is consistent with screwed up metabolism (adrenaline compensating where it can). T4 can specifically lower adrenaline. Also try upping salt.

I made a lot of thyroid med mistakes before my cession with Danny. First of all I learned a lot of my digestive issues were coming from liquid thyroid supps that were in ethanol. If you take it with food it’s not a problem for some… but if you’re very sensitive like me it definitely was still a problem.

At Danny’s suggestion I hopped over to cynoplus + cynomel, and haven’t looked back.

Definitely take with meals, and lunch and dinner should often be a specific t3/t4 mix. Consult Danny’s vids on that, and I suggest a proper consultation.

Anything to start binding to estrogen and bacterial overgrowths in your digestive tract — if tolerated, carrot salad — If not, try oat bran. If constipated, try cascara sagrada.
Another really helpful one has been well-boiled mushrooms (create air circulation and blow the steam out of a window, hah).

Blessings.

Jenna

@Starcrossed An Abaltion is a medical procedure that freezes the inside of your uterus-basically scarring it. it's not Peaty because Im sure its stressful-they put me under to do it. I had not heard of Peat and I tried a bunch of other natural things for several years with no success. The recovery was just a day or two.

cs3000

@Starcrossed
Doesnt necessarily suggest hypothyroidism, but with other stuff mentioned i guess u might be mildly hypothyroid (you have good high pulse, oral temp range, t4 and t3 not obviously skewed maybe slightly depends, tsh only a bit elevated, but blood loss adrenaline cold if u still are etc -
so maybe but not obviously hypo)
More salt can be helpful for the fight or flight thing as if you do have some level of hypothyroidism , sodium gets wasted more easily so isnt countering adrenaline well without replenishing often, (taking thyroid can increase adrenaline sensitivity too so more need for salt, but also lowers cortisol).
some people move up doses every 2 weeks until desired effect or hit a total of 25mcg - 50mcg t3 in multiple doses depending on severity

Theres some positive studies using vit A or vit D for abnormal menstrual bleeding. and vitamin b1
vit b1 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24738933/
vit d https://www.jcdronline.org/admin/Uploads/Files/6564af6091d0d1.39699188.pdf
vit a (if fixing low levels) (these are extreme doses i wouldnt take but looks very helpful in potential, high doses get toxic so i would like to keep it under 5000iu, as even 10,000iu has some inflammatory / toxic potential) https://journals.co.za/doi/pdf/10.10520/AJA20785135_24314

Might be worth eating beef or sheep liver (in balance) if you dont, which gives Vit A, and copper, and a little iron.
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And if those 3 arent enough 2 targets may be 1. things that help mature blood vessels / stop leakiness. and 2. things that lower eNOS & nitric oxide , shown here to relate to the endometrial breakdown https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9915994/ and mentioned lower in this post too (need vasoconstriction in a specific place to stop bleeds which nitric oxide counters)

Some idea of mechanism (failure of vessels to mature so theyre more permable?) (or failure of spiral arterioles to constrict because of too much nitric oxide?)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10320491/

This review supports existing evidence that increased proangiogenic and decreased antiangiogenic factors cause impaired vessel maturation, resulting in more fragile and permeable vessels.
Conceivably, the genesis of AUB in patients with AUB-E and AUB-I is caused by a different combination of abnormalities in angiogenic factors. In general, VEGF expression increased and Ang-I decreased in patients with objectively defined AUB-E: this could suggest decreased vessel maturation in these patients. In patients with AUB-I, angiogenic factors were increased after short-term exposure and unchanged after long-term exposure to exogenous hormones. This could be in agreement with the fact that spotting complaints with exogenous hormone use gradually disappear over time (Hillard, 2014) and, hypothetically, angiogenesis in the endometrium will normalize. However, these findings should be interpreted with caution and do not imply causation.

Vasoconstriction of spiral arterioles is essential to limit menstrual blood flow, as a small increase in diameter will lead to an extensive increase in blood flow. For instance, if the diameter is increased 2-fold this will lead to a 16-fold decrease in flow resistance (Jain et al., 2022). Blumenthal et al. (2002) found an increase in eNOS in both the secretory and proliferative phase in patients with AUB-E (Blumenthal et al., 2002). As eNOS produces NO and NO increases vasodilatation, HMB could hypothetically be caused by an increase in spiral arteriole diameter under the influence of increased NO levels (Jeremy et al., 1999; Valdes et al., 2008). This could indicate that, apart from angiogenesis, several other mechanisms are involved in AUB.

. It is likely that in patients with AUB-E and AUB-I, a combination of different angiogenic mechanisms may play a role. This could be one of the explanations for why increased angiogenesis is not always associated with a change in MVD but could lead to vessels of insufficient quality or unstable vessels with an impaired function.

Cessation of menses requires (i) vasoconstriction of specialised endometrial spiral arterioles, (ii) an effective haemostatic response, including repair of damaged vasculature and (iii) timely reepithelialisation of the remaining denuded basal endometrium. This unique, scarless repair process is essential to maintain fertility and limit menstrual blood loss