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    • InsomniacI
      Insomniac @basebolt
      last edited by

      @basebolt said in Sleep Issues - Please Help:

      temporarily fixed from niacin but only for a few days

      Everything stops working after a few days. Very frustrating

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        OliverCloasov
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        I had this issue for an entire year, but it's (seemingly) resolved for the past 8mo or so.
        What helped me:

        • no caffeine past 2pm, ever
        • no cigarettes past 7pm (still working on quitting)
        • blue light filter on computer (flux for windows) and phone, linked to sunrise/sunset
        • going outside in bright sun several times a day, most importantly in the early morning
        • 1 hour walk with ankle weights after dinner 5:30ish
        • 300mg GABA + 1/4 tsp glycine + Mg once the sun has set. 1:2 OJ:seltzer afterwards, avoiding eating anything but a bit of fruit (if that)
        • no video games, tv shows or otherwise stimulating activities within 2 hours before bed
        • 10 min spurts of bodyweight exercise throughout the day
        • no heavy proteins withing 4 hours of when I aim to go to bed (especially animal protein)
        • turning off Wi-Fi in the house at night
        • sleep area clear of E fields from appliances, tvs, etc
        • phone airplane mode at night
        • changed my house lights to warm white, avoiding daylight bulbs like the plague
        • rgb room light at night so I can transition room lighting from golden yellow at sundown to red after sunset
        • reading a book an hour before bed
        • using blackout curtains or equivalent to prevent the light from the stupid blue LED Street lamps coming in
        • ensuring there are no little lights from any devices, monitors, computers, etc glowing in my sleep room

        There might be a few more things involved, but this is what I've come to realize made a difference in concert

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          S.Holmes @OliverCloasov
          last edited by S.Holmes

          You can try doxylamine succinate (an antihistamine, also known as Sleep Aid) at bedtime to help with a reset. Also some hot cocoa sweetened with sugar (or better dextrose). These always work for me.

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          • InsomniacI
            Insomniac @OliverCloasov
            last edited by Insomniac

            @OliverCloasov To sleep like Oliver you must become Olive...lol
            That's a long slog my friend.

            Thanks for posting some good ideas. I need to work on my sleep hygiene. That's the thing a lot of people like me overlook.

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            • InsomniacI
              Insomniac @S.Holmes
              last edited by Insomniac

              @S-Holmes said in Sleep Issues - Please Help:

              You can try doxylamine succinate (an antihistamine, also known as Sleep Aid) at bedtime to help with a reset. Also some hot cocoa sweetened with sugar (or better dextrose). These always work for me.

              Doxy works real well for a while but I always adapt and it stops working. It's one of the few drugs that I would also recommend. Thanks for the suggestions

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                OliverCloasov @Insomniac
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                @Insomniac Happy to share 😀

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                • herayclitusH
                  herayclitus @_K
                  last edited by

                  @_K Have you tried cyproheptadine? It can have a very potent sedative effect, especially when taken a few hours before bed

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                  • InsomniacI
                    Insomniac @herayclitus
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                    @herayclitus said in Sleep Issues - Please Help:

                    @_K Have you tried cyproheptadine? It can have a very potent sedative effect, especially when taken a few hours before bed

                    No I haven't. I was going to but I read on the raypeatforum that people thought doxylamine was very similar. It's worth a try. It's a shame it isn't over the counter like some other countries. Thanks for the recommendation.

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                    • herayclitusH
                      herayclitus @Insomniac
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                      @Insomniac Yeah it's definitely stronger than doxylamine in my experience, the downside is you can become resistant to it pretty fast unfortunately. The IdeaLabs cyproheptadine works pretty well I think

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                      • InsomniacI
                        Insomniac @herayclitus
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                        @herayclitus Do you take brakes? How do you keep it working?

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                        • herayclitusH
                          herayclitus @Insomniac
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                          @Insomniac Yes, it's best to cycle on/off every few weeks and stick to the lowest effective dosage. I usually do 2-5mg maximum

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