cancer
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I'm sure that you have gotten into conflicts with familiar people for diverging opinions. I find Jennifer remarkable in spite of her applegated phase.
You were discussing fasting, and there's a lot of information on variations of it applied in cancer. An example:
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@Amazoniac said in cancer:
@Amazoniac said in cancer:
If you've been moved by respect, feel free to ignore the posts.
Thank you.
Jennifer,
I'm the one to thank you for clarifying that you weren't invested on this to defend your views, but out of respect for the conversation. After all, it would take disrespects at any moment to avoid being intensely argumentative. An unbearable one:
- 'I would prefer not to discuss this topic further, will refrain from commenting for now, and hope that you don't mind.'
If I thought a vague reply like that would have satisfied you I would have said that, however, I thought my acknowledging and saying that I understand why you believe in plant-based, but that I’m not as convinced for reasons that are beyond the scope of this conversation would be better received. I’m sorry for joining the discussion and derailing the thread.
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@Amazoniac said in cancer:
@Amazoniac said in cancer:
If you've been moved by respect, feel free to ignore the posts.
Thank you.
Jennifer,
I'm the one to thank you for clarifying that you weren't invested on this to defend your views, but out of respect for the conversation. After all, it would take disrespects at any moment to avoid being intensely argumentative. An unbearable one:
- 'I would prefer not to discuss this topic further, will refrain from commenting for now, and hope that you don't mind.'
If I thought a vague reply like that would have satisfied you I would have said that, however, I thought my acknowledging and saying that I understand why you believe in plant-based, but that I’m not as convinced for reasons that are beyond the scope of this conversation would be better received. I’m sorry for joining the discussion and derailing the thread.
Jennifer,
- 'My committed arguing has been to be polite with you.'
Sure..
But it's no different than what you're doing right now: continue to defend your positionings rather than reacting out of respect for the conversation.
That reply would be just as vague as stating your views and obscuring your reasons. And when you have no intention to elaborate on your points (as just reinforced), it's indeed better not to feed an argumentative trip through actions.
The suggestion is to transfer all related posts to:
- Protocols: constraints and trade-offs
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One broader question on cancer, following the discussion, would be methods for identification of cancer / detection. Biopsy seems to be a no-go overall given the stress it induces to the body, often promoting a cancer.
Does liquid biopsy (blood tests) present an option? Below post seems that if you are looking for genes, then not. If not looking for genes, what are we looking for then?
A blood test to look for fragments of DNA in the bloodstream
“She was offered a blood test, also described as a "liquid biopsy" which looks for fragments of DNA which have broken off tumours and are in the bloodstream.
This so-called "circulating tumour DNA" revealed that Kat's cancer growth was being driven by a mutation in the ALK gene.”
I won't state the obvious
This story was published hours before the announcement that the other Kate has cancer.
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Stumbled on this one from references in links in the Horseradish thread but didn't read beyond the abstract.
Abstract
Cyclooxygenase and human tumor cell growth inhibitory extracts of horseradish (Armoracia rusticana) and wasabi (Wasabia japonica) rhizomes upon purification yielded active compounds 1-3 from horseradish and 4 and 5 from wasabi rhizomes. Spectroscopic analyses confirmed the identities of these active compounds as plastoquinone-9 (1), 6-O-acyl-beta-d-glucosyl-beta-sitosterol (2), 1,2-dilinolenoyl-3-galactosylglycerol (3), linolenoyloleoyl-3-beta-galactosylglycerol (4), and 1,2-dipalmitoyl-3-beta-galactosylglycerol (5). 3-Acyl-sitosterols, sinigrin, gluconasturtiin, and phosphatidylcholines isolated from horseradish and alpha-tocopherol and ubiquinone-10 from wasabi rhizomes isolated were inactive in our assays. At a concentration of 60 microg/mL, compounds 1 and 2 selectively inhibited COX-1 enzyme by 28 and 32%, respectively. Compounds 3, 4, and 5 gave 75, 42, and 47% inhibition of COX-1 enzyme, respectively, at a concentration of 250 microg/mL. In a dose response study, compound 3 inhibited the proliferation of colon cancer cells (HCT-116) by 21.9, 42.9, 51.2, and 68.4% and lung cancer cells (NCI-H460) by 30, 39, 44, and 71% at concentrations of 7.5, 15, 30, and 60 microg/mL, respectively. At a concentration of 60 microg/mL, compound 4 inhibited the growth of colon, lung, and stomach cancer cells by 28, 17, and 44%, respectively. This is the first report of the COX-1 enzyme and cancer cell growth inhibitory monogalactosyl diacylglycerides from wasabi and horseradish rhizomes.