cancer
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I'm sure that you have gotten into conflicts with familiar people for diverging opinions. I find Jennifer remarkable in spite of her applegated phase.
You were discussing fasting, and there's a lot of information on variations of it applied in cancer. An example:
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@Amazoniac said in cancer:
@Amazoniac said in cancer:
If you've been moved by respect, feel free to ignore the posts.
Thank you.
Jennifer,
I'm the one to thank you for clarifying that you weren't invested on this to defend your views, but out of respect for the conversation. After all, it would take disrespects at any moment to avoid being intensely argumentative. An unbearable one:
- 'I would prefer not to discuss this topic further, will refrain from commenting for now, and hope that you don't mind.'
If I thought a vague reply like that would have satisfied you I would have said that, however, I thought my acknowledging and saying that I understand why you believe in plant-based, but that I’m not as convinced for reasons that are beyond the scope of this conversation would be better received. I’m sorry for joining the discussion and derailing the thread.
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@Amazoniac said in cancer:
@Amazoniac said in cancer:
If you've been moved by respect, feel free to ignore the posts.
Thank you.
Jennifer,
I'm the one to thank you for clarifying that you weren't invested on this to defend your views, but out of respect for the conversation. After all, it would take disrespects at any moment to avoid being intensely argumentative. An unbearable one:
- 'I would prefer not to discuss this topic further, will refrain from commenting for now, and hope that you don't mind.'
If I thought a vague reply like that would have satisfied you I would have said that, however, I thought my acknowledging and saying that I understand why you believe in plant-based, but that I’m not as convinced for reasons that are beyond the scope of this conversation would be better received. I’m sorry for joining the discussion and derailing the thread.
Jennifer,
- 'My committed arguing has been to be polite with you.'
Sure..
But it's no different than what you're doing right now: continue to defend your positionings rather than reacting out of respect for the conversation.
That reply would be just as vague as stating your views and obscuring your reasons. And when you have no intention to elaborate on your points (as just reinforced), it's indeed better not to feed an argumentative trip through actions.
The suggestion is to transfer all related posts to:
- Protocols: constraints and trade-offs
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One broader question on cancer, following the discussion, would be methods for identification of cancer / detection. Biopsy seems to be a no-go overall given the stress it induces to the body, often promoting a cancer.
Does liquid biopsy (blood tests) present an option? Below post seems that if you are looking for genes, then not. If not looking for genes, what are we looking for then?
A blood test to look for fragments of DNA in the bloodstream
“She was offered a blood test, also described as a "liquid biopsy" which looks for fragments of DNA which have broken off tumours and are in the bloodstream.
This so-called "circulating tumour DNA" revealed that Kat's cancer growth was being driven by a mutation in the ALK gene.”
I won't state the obvious
This story was published hours before the announcement that the other Kate has cancer.
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Stumbled on this one from references in links in the Horseradish thread but didn't read beyond the abstract.
Abstract
Cyclooxygenase and human tumor cell growth inhibitory extracts of horseradish (Armoracia rusticana) and wasabi (Wasabia japonica) rhizomes upon purification yielded active compounds 1-3 from horseradish and 4 and 5 from wasabi rhizomes. Spectroscopic analyses confirmed the identities of these active compounds as plastoquinone-9 (1), 6-O-acyl-beta-d-glucosyl-beta-sitosterol (2), 1,2-dilinolenoyl-3-galactosylglycerol (3), linolenoyloleoyl-3-beta-galactosylglycerol (4), and 1,2-dipalmitoyl-3-beta-galactosylglycerol (5). 3-Acyl-sitosterols, sinigrin, gluconasturtiin, and phosphatidylcholines isolated from horseradish and alpha-tocopherol and ubiquinone-10 from wasabi rhizomes isolated were inactive in our assays. At a concentration of 60 microg/mL, compounds 1 and 2 selectively inhibited COX-1 enzyme by 28 and 32%, respectively. Compounds 3, 4, and 5 gave 75, 42, and 47% inhibition of COX-1 enzyme, respectively, at a concentration of 250 microg/mL. In a dose response study, compound 3 inhibited the proliferation of colon cancer cells (HCT-116) by 21.9, 42.9, 51.2, and 68.4% and lung cancer cells (NCI-H460) by 30, 39, 44, and 71% at concentrations of 7.5, 15, 30, and 60 microg/mL, respectively. At a concentration of 60 microg/mL, compound 4 inhibited the growth of colon, lung, and stomach cancer cells by 28, 17, and 44%, respectively. This is the first report of the COX-1 enzyme and cancer cell growth inhibitory monogalactosyl diacylglycerides from wasabi and horseradish rhizomes.
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@Ecstatic_Hamster Have you read anything about sarcomas? A family member of mine just got diagnosed with leiomyosarcoma. She has an 11 cm tumor in her stomach. They want to remove one kidney and her colon with the tumor right away. Hopefully the aorta will not be involved. They told her she has 6 months without the surgery and 5 years with it. She's 75 and in very good shape otherwise. Her husband has parkinsons, so this has been quite devastating for her and my family. I'm just looking for any alternative info I can find to support her.
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@Sippy said in cancer:
@Ecstatic_Hamster Have you read anything about sarcomas? A family member of mine just got diagnosed with leiomyosarcoma. She has an 11 cm tumor in her stomach. They want to remove one kidney and her colon with the tumor right away. Hopefully the aorta will not be involved. They told her she has 6 months without the surgery and 5 years with it. She's 75 and in very good shape otherwise. Her husband has parkinsons, so this has been quite devastating for her and my family. I'm just looking for any alternative info I can find to support her.
I have, and I would do the same thing. Nobody will listen but that’s okay. I would do monthly ultrasound and take 1g of THC per day, in 1/3 g doses, via rectal suppository, with constituent extract components such as terpenes and associated cannabinoids. I have found a way to do this super cheaply without growing your own.
This should get rid of all tumors within 30 - 45 days, pretty much. Of course nothing works every time, but it sure seems to work most of the time, and there is always time to have kidneys removed later. Sorry, don’t mean to be flippant, but doctors just kill people with this. I have family members going through it now and it’s very, very ugly. I was able to spare a close family member through this method, and she is doing great with minimal medical interventions (although some as she was a bit conventional.)
Parkinson’s responds very well to 15mg or 20mg of CBDA several times a day. Very inexpensive and very effective.
Send them to CannabisHealthRadio.com to listen to a bunch of interviews.
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im just gonna post the things to look into, I don't know if the blood thinning ones are safe for people with tumours, that is your call.
home made apatone: 5mg methylene blue + 500mg-1g vitamin c, 3x a day, mix in pure water and drink immediately, don't wait for it to go clear (that is my opinion).
high dose k2 mk4 (taken orally with 35g fat for max absorption)
emodin/aloe-emodin: heard this is a blood thinner, not easy to source but it's out there, 100-200 mg powder orally shows up in the urine at that dose so some of it is absorbing into blood too. a slight laxative effect. cascara sagrada powder contains emotion but im not sure how much. idealabs sells this mixed with lapachone iirc, it' s a lower dose of emotion but it apparently absorbs better.
doxycycline/minocycline antibiotics
the studied anti-cancer biotin, thiamine, niacinamide stack: I would at least recommend to try niacinamide and thiamine. the biotin probably is more likely to cause side effect (acne possibly) but not saying not to take it, just that thiamine and niacinamide are super easy to take.
cortinon+: proven as well as helpful for cancer in rodents
aspirin and baking soda: really not sure if that's safe with a stomach tumour, im guessing it is probably worth the risk but I don't know.
cyproheptadine: also a blood thinner. the dose that cured metastatic liver and bone cancer is 4mg 3x a day. or maybe it was kidney. the case report is online. this might be really worth looking into because it promotes sleep and hunger which might be important at this time. the zombie like feeling it gives to a cyproheptadine naive patient might be a little overwhelming and might feel like depression.
anti parasite meds are apparently effective
and then 50% gelatin / collagen protein.
raw pineapple for enzymes
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@Ecstatic_Hamster actually legit, I know of a dude locally that cured cancer with I think RSO (rick Simpson oil).
all the stuff I listed is not incompatible with cannabis oil, anyways.
apatone is nice because in the literature the explanation is that it only causes damage to cancerous cells. all the other pro metabolic stuff would also push the cells to turn back into normal that can. apatone would kill off the ones that won't
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@NNight disproportionate is relative to desire with what to do with the information and experimentation . there's a big difference between researching stuff out of anxious desperation or relaxed interest. im not saying the former is "wrong" to do, it offers comfort and solutions, but im saying that morphing into the latter isn't unheard of. Nathan hatch wrote a helpful book after treating his own issues
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@sneedful said in cancer:
@Ecstatic_Hamster actually legit, I know of a dude locally that cured cancer with I think RSO (rick Simpson oil).
all the stuff I listed is not incompatible with cannabis oil, anyways.
apatone is nice because in the literature the explanation is that it only causes damage to cancerous cells. all the other pro metabolic stuff would also push the cells to turn back into normal that can. apatone would kill off the ones that won't
I have hundreds of stories. Also see TheMikeWiseShow on Facebook, he has a ton of similar stories and videos.
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Are the claims about aspirin's cancer-shrinking effects Ray or Georgi / Danny spoke about backed up in any human studies?
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@Corngold yes many but I don’t think it is sufficient to rely on.
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@Ecstatic_Hamster Thanks so much. She just got a second opinion at a big cancer hospital that was more hopeful, but they want to take out an adrenal gland and her spleen as well. She'll probably get the surgery, but hopefully can try the cannabis suppositories after.
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@Sippy said in cancer:
@Ecstatic_Hamster Thanks so much. She just got a second opinion at a big cancer hospital that was more hopeful, but they want to take out an adrenal gland and her spleen as well. She'll probably get the surgery, but hopefully can try the cannabis suppositories after.
Have you read anything about high dose melatonin suppositories and cancer?Melatonin can be very helpful in high doses. I am not sure why people don’t try the cannabis. It’s easy and works fast and they wouldn’t need their organs removed. But that’s how people are. they just trust doctors, sadly..
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what do cancers feed off of?
Is it fat or sugar or methanine?
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@gg12 fat, sugar, glutamine.
