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Getting rid of gyno

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    skywxlker
    last edited by Jan 30, 2024, 6:05 PM

    Where do I get dht?

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      Cornelyan
      last edited by Jan 30, 2024, 6:09 PM

      In a more auxialliary manner try rubbing some coocnut oil of the breast area to saturate it, I don't recomand going full androsterone since it can convert to estrogen at a rate influenced by the presence of PUFAs

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        retard
        last edited by Jan 30, 2024, 6:45 PM

        Would exemestane + topical DHT work better than either of them alone?

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          NisoKTNU
          last edited by Jan 30, 2024, 7:15 PM

          If you have legitimate gyno there is nothing you can do to get rid of it other than surgery. Things like raloxifine only temporarily reduce size with some bad side effects, if there is no glandular development then maybe DHT etc can reduce the puffy-nes

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            Hando-Jin @eatfan
            last edited by Jan 30, 2024, 8:35 PM

            @eatfan is it actual mammary tissue or fat cells? You can tell under ultrasound

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              Neigher @peatilian
              last edited by Jan 30, 2024, 9:17 PM

              @peatilian I am interested in solving test and dht into dmso. What is the procedure?

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                dugan
                last edited by Jan 30, 2024, 9:24 PM

                It’s my theory that after a certain point in the development of gyno, enough fat tissue accumulates at the site to have significant local aromatization. Topically applied DHT, androsterone, and vitamin E should help reduce the affects of estrogen in the area.

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                  saturnmissiles
                  last edited by Jan 30, 2024, 9:33 PM

                  I’ve only dealt with puffy gyno and really anything lowering estrogen/increasing DHT (even transdermal dhea) shrinks it down completely but using one bottle of andro on them 1mg each a day seems to have removed most of the stubborn fat tissue that was underneath. I smoked some weed a few days ago and it came back for a few hours my nips are like instant estrogen detectors.

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                    peatilian @Neigher
                    last edited by Jan 30, 2024, 11:06 PM

                    @Neigher said in Getting rid of gyno:

                    @peatilian I am interested in solving test and dht into dmso. What is the procedure?

                    No clue I purchased already solved. Check out alphagels on twitter/reddit if you don’t want to mix yourself.

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                      donovan @eatfan
                      last edited by donovan Jan 30, 2024, 11:32 PM Jan 30, 2024, 11:19 PM

                      @eatfan not sure why anyone in this thread hasn’t mentioned p5p (vit b6 form), that is even used by bodybuilders to reduce prolactin. 150mg for a week tapered down to 50mg anytime i get any symptoms of high prolactin did it for me.

                      Safety and Efficacy of High-Dose Vitamin B6 as an Adjunctive Treatment for Antipsychotic-Induced Hyperprolactinemia in Male Patients With Treatment-Resistant Schizophrenia

                      The Role of Vitamin B6 in Reducing Serum Prolactin in Comparison to Cabergoline

                      p5p was compared to cabergoline, which is the drug often prescribed to reduce Gynecomastia, as well as used often by bodybuilders to reduce chances of gynecomastia from increased prolactin. Also, dirt cheap. Look into p5p.

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                        eatfan @Hando-Jin
                        last edited by Jan 30, 2024, 11:23 PM

                        @Hando-Jin it’s more puffy - hence it might be fixable by addressing estrogen & prolactin excess?

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                          eatfan @Lew
                          last edited by Jan 30, 2024, 11:28 PM

                          @Lew thanks for the reply - seems like andro/dht might be the way to go. How much aspirin and vit k are you taking?

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                            eatfan @donovan
                            last edited by Jan 30, 2024, 11:35 PM

                            @donovan great stuff thanks - I’m pretty sure it’s a GABA agonist if I remember correctly, another reason to supplement so thanks I’ll look into it.

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                              donovan @eatfan
                              last edited by Jan 30, 2024, 11:38 PM

                              @eatfan yeah p5p was the only thing that made a difference, and still makes a difference. Also it’s dirt cheap compared to everything else recommended, not that they won’t work as much/more. Good luck

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                                Hando-Jin @eatfan
                                last edited by Jan 31, 2024, 2:38 AM

                                @eatfan Yeah i think so. I got induced gyno from taking amitriptyline (some studies say it raises prolactin).

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                                  Lew @eatfan
                                  last edited by Jan 31, 2024, 10:40 AM

                                  @eatfan with aspirin I go by feel, 300mg-1000mg, with 3-5mg K topical

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                                    BigusDickus @eatfan
                                    last edited by Jan 31, 2024, 10:46 AM

                                    @eatfan Unfortunately, there's no solution that involves topical application of creams that will result in tissue reduction. The keyword is tissue, since tissue, once formed, cannot be reduced through hormones anymore.

                                    Surgery is painless and recovery is less than two days. If it bothers you so much.

                                    The man who believes that the secrets of the world are forever hidden lives in mystery and fear.

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                                      skylark @BigusDickus
                                      last edited by Jan 31, 2024, 1:34 PM

                                      @BigusDickus not true at all, glandular tissue can be catabolized just like fat and muscle tissue - it can also be catabolized before fat & muscle under certain hormonal situations such as the thymus gland in acute cortisol response. I would imagine shinkage of any tissue to occur more easily in a slight calorie deficit, so long as you're maintaining proper liver funciton.

                                      Good things are immeasurably costly

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                                        BigusDickus @skylark
                                        last edited by Jan 31, 2024, 2:26 PM

                                        @skylark You're writing "not true at all" yet there's absolutely no evidence of substantial tissue removal, in the literature or anecdotally. Tissue catabolism doesn't mean removal in the context of fat and muscle, but shrinkage. Likewise, removing gyno without surgery is as probable as removing your nipples by rubbing creams on them.

                                        The man who believes that the secrets of the world are forever hidden lives in mystery and fear.

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                                          skylark @BigusDickus
                                          last edited by Jan 31, 2024, 3:06 PM

                                          @BigusDickus
                                          @BigusDickus said in Getting rid of gyno:

                                          @eatfan Unfortunately, there's no solution that involves topical application of creams that will result in tissue reduction

                                          Kuhn JM, Laudat MH, Roca R, Dugue MA, Luton JP, Bricaire H. Gynécomasties: effet du traitement prolongé par la dihydrotestostérone par voie per-cutanée [Gynecomastia: effect of prolonged treatment with dihydrotestosterone by th
                                          percutaneous route]. Presse Med. 1983 Jan 8;12(1):21-5. French. PMID: 6220269.

                                          Eberle AJ, Sparrow JT, Keenan BS. Treatment of persistent pubertal gynecomastia with dihydrotestosterone heptanoate. J Pediatr. 1986 Jul;109(1):144-9. doi: 10.1016/s0022-3476(86)80596-0. PMID: 3088241.

                                          I mean here is two specifically on treating gyno with dht, would take you 30s to search on pubmed… idk why you keep saying “tissue removal” gyno isn’t the presence of the glandular tissue, everybody has glandular tissue, it’s just the growth of that tissue - so successfully treating gyno is just reversing the growth back to an acceptable level.

                                          Good things are immeasurably costly

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