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    Seborrheic Dermatitis (SD) cured by Topical Caprylic Acid (C8:0)Triglycerides

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    • jamezb46J
      jamezb46 @yerrag
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      @yerrag

      1. I used it every day for about 10 days after which I did not need to use it any more to maintain the benefits. I saw visual benefits within the first day and benefits as regards itchiness/irritation of the skin within hours.

      2. I was using a pure C8:0 triglyceride product

      3. I do not know which/if any yeast were present or were causing the condition. If you go on PubMed, and search for Seborrheic Dermatitis, you will find some studies claiming that there is a spectrum between Seb Derm and other inflammatory skin conditions such as psoriasis meaning that there is no clear distinction. My present thinking is that the saturated fatty acids themselves improve epidermal function or outcompete the unsaturated fatty acids and thereby decrease inflammation for reasons described by Haidut in the thread I linked.

      In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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      • yerragY
        yerrag @jamezb46
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        @jamezb46

        Thanks. I may look then to buy a caprylic acid product if my current use of vco carrier with an antifungal blend of thymol, cinnamon bark, and oregano oil doesn't work. It is a much more diluted blend that I have uses successfully on nail fungus.

        Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
        engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
        wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
        the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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          Hearthfire @yerrag
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          @jamezb46
          Do you think MCT oil would work? And what about this, https://www.amazon.com/Now-Foods-Caprylic-600mg-Softgels/dp/B00KQ2L024

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          • jamezb46J
            jamezb46 @Hearthfire
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            @Hearthfire I do think mct oil would work

            In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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            • jamezb46J
              jamezb46 @Hearthfire
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              @Hearthfire but it needs to be applied to the skin as I wrote. The oral capsules will not work.

              In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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                Hearthfire @jamezb46
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                @jamezb46 Got it. Thanks. So it would make more sense to buy some not in capsule form.

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                • jamezb46J
                  jamezb46 @Hearthfire
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                  @Hearthfire Correct. Here is the link to the one I bought.

                  In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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                  • secondkelpingS
                    secondkelping @jamezb46
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                    @jamezb46 I've been trying to solve this recently, and I discovered that 1 tbsp of coconut oil a day ingested stopped the growth and cleared my scalp (along with a weekly wash with a coconut oil based shampoo and conditioner).

                    Also, I have applied T3 via Tyronene to spots on my scalp lacking hair and have seen a burst of new growth.

                    I have thought about topical application as well because I haven't really seen a reduction in the folds yet, so I will try your method soon to see if it gets even better.

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                    • jamezb46J
                      jamezb46 @secondkelping
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                      @secondkelping sounds good. I probably should have wrote that when I applied the C8:0, I didn’t wipe it off, just left it on.

                      In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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                      • yerragY
                        yerrag @jamezb46
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                        @jamezb46

                        The next oil worked. I rubbed it on my scalp but I did it daily for a month. Hooray! The fungal film slowly disappeared.

                        Thanks.

                        I'm doing follow-up treatment though.

                        And I now have a nest applicator I bought from Temu.!

                        I could not figure out a way to post pictures here though. Otherwise I'd post a pic of that applicator, which I think is very cool to have.

                        Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                        engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                        wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                        the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                        • yerragY
                          yerrag @yerrag
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                          This is the product link st Temu Philippines:

                          https://share.temu.com/RLhSjt2s56A

                          Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                          engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                          wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                          the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                          • jamezb46J
                            jamezb46 @yerrag
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                            @yerrag

                            So the caprylic acid worked for you?

                            In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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                            • SunnivaS
                              Sunniva
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                              I have two people who had their flaky head resolve using the c8 product. It has been like a miracle.

                              Used the Amazon product link provided above.
                              LevelUp
                              LevelUp Clean MCT Oil - 100% Caprylic C8

                              "You're changing your past every time you learn something because you become a different organism" Ray Peat

                              "Everything is changing thru time, whether it's a word, organism, thing. The world around it changes, and so its relationships change"Ray Peat

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                              • jamezb46J
                                jamezb46 @Sunniva
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                                @Sunniva

                                That’s awesome to hear. Did you recommend it based on this post?

                                In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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                                • yerragY
                                  yerrag @jamezb46
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                                  @jamezb46 said in Seborrheic Dermatitis (SD) cured by Topical Caprylic Acid (C8:0)Triglycerides:

                                  @yerrag

                                  So the caprylic acid worked for you?

                                  Yup! Took awhile though, but I stuck with it. Thanks a million!

                                  Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                                  engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                                  wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                                  the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                                  • SunnivaS
                                    Sunniva @jamezb46
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                                    @jamezb46 said in Seborrheic Dermatitis (SD) cured by Topical Caprylic Acid (C8:0)Triglycerides:

                                    @Sunniva

                                    That’s awesome to hear. Did you recommend it based on this post?

                                    Yes. They had both been using regular coconut oil. Switching to c8 made a world of difference.

                                    "You're changing your past every time you learn something because you become a different organism" Ray Peat

                                    "Everything is changing thru time, whether it's a word, organism, thing. The world around it changes, and so its relationships change"Ray Peat

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                                    • jamezb46J
                                      jamezb46 @Sunniva
                                      last edited by jamezb46

                                      @Sunniva

                                      Wonderful. Glad to see my solution seems to be of general utility.

                                      Of additional interest is the androgenicity of caprylic acid. Perhaps that is another mechanism by which it opposes the inflammatory response that is SD. Namely, by opposing estrogen.

                                      I’m currently researching p5p, the active form of vitamin b6 for this skin disorder as well. I’ll report back in a few months. It may be that SD is really a micronutrient deficiency, of some combination of zinc, b6, selenium, etc.

                                      Since people in the RP community don’t eat a lot of PUFA, their metabolic rate is higher and thus the need for these micronutrients, as demonstrated in the PUFA-deficient mice who developed scaly skin on their paws.

                                      The fact that one study gave them b6 and saw no improvement doesn’t really show much, since they didn’t control for other micronutrients such as those above mentioned.

                                      In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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                                      • DavidPSD
                                        DavidPS
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                                        09.21.20 The True Natrue of a Virus, September 21, 2020 [897179593]
                                        “…Interesting. Wow. Wow, wow, wow. Let me do this first. Does Dr. Peat have any advice for an ongoing seborrheic dermatitis? I'm worried that it's kind of an autoimmune response from old vaccines. I would be interested to know what Dr. Peat thinks about homeopathic medicine as well in general.

                                        I haven't had any experience with homeopathics for that, but vitamin D and the calcium phosphate ratio in the diet are, I think, the first things that should be explored. Vitamin D has many effects on the skin.”

                                        https://www.bioenergetic.life/clips/ca339?t=5338&c=102

                                        ““Effective health care depends on self-care” - Ivan Illich, 👀
                                        ☂️

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                                        • jamezb46J
                                          jamezb46 @DavidPS
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                                          @DavidPS

                                          Thanks for the information, especially since it is a direct response from Dr. Peat.

                                          There are a number of threads on the RP forum about some ( I think it was Charlie, among others, a long time ago) getting relief from dry skin with b6. Some, however, did not find relief with the b6 supplementation.

                                          I think the calcium/phosphate and vitamin d work systemically, and decrease inflammation/improve metabolism in the whole organism. For example, dialing in the calcium/phosphate ratio would decrease PTH, and thus allow for t3 to increase, thus improving metabolism across the whole organism.

                                          Vitamin D is also known to be weakly androgenic (and thus oppositional to estogen), which is potentially a shared MOA with C8:0.

                                          In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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                                            LetTheRedeemed @jamezb46
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                                            @jamezb46 Everytime I've tried to apply topical coconut oil or MCT oil, I get worse acne for several days at the application site -- has your research led you to any thoughts on that?

                                            Many thanks

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