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    Mice fed a 0% protein diet for a week lost nearly 20% of their body mass

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    • ?
      A Former User @Jennifer
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      @Jennifer

      Well considering he died…. I do think we know how he would fare on a low protein diet lol.

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        There are some studies saying that uncoupling protects the muscles, so I imagine it's something related. I think it's common knowledge that DNP seems to preserve a lot of muscle mass even if you lose a lot of weight (compared to fat loss with ozempic for example). When protein is restricted there is an increase in T3, uncoupling, brown fat... So this could be one of the reasons, but I don't know if it would preserve it for long

        Low protein has twice as much t3
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          serotoninskeptic @TexugoDoMel
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          @TexugoDoMel Sugar also has a muscle and protein preserving effect. So if one were fed a high carb-low protein diet this could be a protective factor.

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            serotoninskeptic @Jennifer
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            @Jennifer I still dont have one 😢

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              serotoninskeptic @A Former User
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              @RawGoatMilk88 I doubt the low-protein experiment caused his death. If anything it couldve been an attempt to cure whatever health condition he was already dealing with which lead to his death.

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                A Former User @serotoninskeptic
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                @Serotoninskeptic

                Certainly didn’t help.

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                  serotoninskeptic @A Former User
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                  @RawGoatMilk88 Yeah but if he was still young and healthy and didnt have an underlying condition he may have fared well, if not possibly better than a higher protein diet. I think thats what Jennifer was getting at atleast.

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                  • JenniferJ
                    Jennifer @A Former User
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                    @RawGoatMilk88 said in Mice fed a 0% protein diet for a week lost nearly 20% of their body mass:

                    @Jennifer

                    Well considering he died…. I do think we know how he would fare on a low protein diet lol.

                    What Serotoninskeptic said. For all I know, Ray was motivated to experiment with low methionine because his health was failing and no intervention he tried was going to extend his life.

                    I have stood on a mountain of no’s for one yes. ~ B. Smith

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                    • JenniferJ
                      Jennifer @serotoninskeptic
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                      @Serotoninskeptic said in Mice fed a 0% protein diet for a week lost nearly 20% of their body mass:

                      @Jennifer I still dont have one 😢

                      Neither do I. I was going to buy it, but I can’t see spending $550 on a juicer when I can get fresh-pressed cider for $8 a gallon. I did the math and it would cost me around $12 to juice a gallon’s worth of apples.

                      I have stood on a mountain of no’s for one yes. ~ B. Smith

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                        serotoninskeptic @Jennifer
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                        @Jennifer Yess im so glad fresh unpasteurized apple cider is back at my farmer's market 😃

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                        • JenniferJ
                          Jennifer @serotoninskeptic
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                          @Serotoninskeptic, nice! The one I get is pasteurized, but it’s available year round and I like my cider heated up anyway with some cinnamon and vanilla bean. 🙂

                          I have stood on a mountain of no’s for one yes. ~ B. Smith

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                            serotoninskeptic @Jennifer
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                            @Jennifer That reminds me. When i was fruit-based and I first found your posts on RPF, i tried out the warm cider recipe and loved it. I started drinking it every day lol

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                              Jennifer @serotoninskeptic
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                              @Serotoninskeptic, oh, wonderful! Spiced cider is to me what OJ is to Peaters. lol With a chunk of gouda, it’s chef’s kiss 😁

                              I have stood on a mountain of no’s for one yes. ~ B. Smith

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                                serotoninskeptic @Jennifer
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                                @Jennifer Ice never had the pleasure of trying it with cheese because i was still vegan 😢 I will have to try it!

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                                  Jennifer @serotoninskeptic
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                                  @Serotoninskeptic, ooh…you’re in for a treat then. Another yummy combo is warm apple & pear sauce with raisins, cinnamon, vanilla and a pat of butter, and a chunk of raw goat cheddar. My temp reaches almost 100° with this meal.

                                  I have stood on a mountain of no’s for one yes. ~ B. Smith

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                                    serotoninskeptic @Jennifer
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                                    @Jennifer That sounds incredible 😍 i need more warm cozy meals for the fall/winter season. Apple sauce, gelatin broths, fruit compotes are all great

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                                    • JenniferJ
                                      Jennifer @serotoninskeptic
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                                      @Serotoninskeptic, definitely! 🙂

                                      I have stood on a mountain of no’s for one yes. ~ B. Smith

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