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    • BioEclecticB
      BioEclectic
      last edited by BioEclectic

      Take the following with a grain of salt as commercial interests may be involved, or simply not properly researched for all i know ...

      A supposedly more therapeutic form of Boron, Calcium Fructoborate, CaFB, just one of many sugar borates.

      • Calcium Fructoborate: a novel nutrient for Bone & Joints
      • Calcium Fructoborate Kills Breast Cancer Cells​
      • Calcium Fructoborate Helps Symptoms of Osteoarthritis
      • The Treatment of Osteoporosis with Calcium Fructoborate
      • Calcium Fructoborate Lowers Inflammatory Nitric Oxide and IL-6.
      • Calcium Fructoborate Quiets Inflammatory Neutrophils
      • Calcium Fructoborate as an Antioxidant
      • Calcium Fructoborate Promotes Hormone Balance

      I've seen it relatively inexpensive in the past at Amazon by searching directly for Calcium Fructoborate or using a trademark name "Fruitex-B".

      Edit:

      Dr Hesslink (PDF):
      The Fructoborates: part of a family of naturally ocurring sugar complexes, biochemistry, physiology, and impact on human health - review (definitely read the introduction page at the very least)

      • Index of Dr Hesslinks other Boron articles.
      • I guess calcium is not necessary for a fructoborate to exist, and that there are multiple types, then there are also glucoborates.

      Edit: i know i can give @Amazoniac credit for some or most of these links. An interesting topic imo, will revisit.

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      • b1B
        b1 @BioEclectic
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        @BioEclectic
        On Amazon I can only find Calcium magnesium with boron. 😠
        It may be because I'm not in USA.

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        • BioEclecticB
          BioEclectic @b1
          last edited by BioEclectic

          @b1 said in Boron supplements:

          @BioEclectic
          On Amazon I can only find Calcium magnesium with boron. 😠
          It may be because I'm not in USA

          Meaning, you cannot find any form of Boron that doesn't include the additional minerals, or were you specifically searching for CaFB?

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            • b1B
              b1 @BioEclectic
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              @BioEclectic
              When I look up calcium fructoborate and the branded one. I can find other boron supplements though.

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              • MauritioM
                Mauritio
                last edited by Mauritio

                Raisins are pretty good sources of boron averaging about 2mg/100mg. If you can find low PUFA ,sun dried ones. Should be good !

                Raisins also have benefits on intestines, increasing transit speed and SCFA in the stool.
                125g raisins/day decreased the transit time from 42h to 28h! That's a huge benefit.
                I notice lessened constipation from raisins as well.

                "Both sun-dried raisins and cream of tartar appear to be good stool softeners and to shorten intestinal transit time, although the fibre in sun-dried raisins has the added benefit of increasing faecal weight. Both sun-dried raisins and cream of tartar modulate the composition of faecal bile acids and SCFA in a way that has potential health benefits."

                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/13129449/

                Dare to think.

                My X:
                x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                • MauritioM
                  Mauritio
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                  Boron lowers PTH and cortisol, while increasing vitamin D and osteocalcin in this animal study.
                  Osteocalcin is anabolic and androgenic . Just do quick search on it , it has some interesting pro-metabolic properties.

                  https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32739828/

                  Dare to think.

                  My X:
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                  • MauritioM
                    Mauritio
                    last edited by Mauritio

                    This is probably the best post on boron (by Travis) .
                    I agree with the hypothesis that arthritis might be of fungal origin and that borons main effect is anti-fungal. Not only that it also protects against fungal toxins like aflatoxin (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0946672X23000032)
                    It's wild that Travis took gram -amounts of boron. It is inherently non toxic , apparently less toxic than salt.

                    https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/nothing-boring-about-boron.22805/post-451585

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                    My X:
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                    • LejebocaL
                      Lejeboca @Mauritio
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                      @Mauritio
                      Travis also spoke about boron as a 'natural fluoride's antidote' :

                      "This [catechol‐O‐methyltransferase] enzyme can be safely inhibited with epicatechin gallate, found in high concentrations in green tea. However, green tea also has fluoride; this fact would make me add fluoride's natural antidote—boron—to the tea."

                      -- https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/caffeine-and-progression-of-parkinson-disease-a-deleterious-interaction-with-creatine.7841/post-301043

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                      • LejebocaL
                        Lejeboca @b1
                        last edited by Lejeboca

                        @b1 said in Boron supplements:

                        I cant find any borax supplements unless you mean the cleaning / slime making stuff

                        Indeed, to second @noseleather borax 'for cleaning' is good stuff. (modulo 'slime making' probably .lol)

                        Anecdotally, I add Borax powder to wash my linens (and light-colored clothes). This is my only 'supplement' with Borax. Idealabs hair tests showed a good load of boron. This was my only change in boron consumption. (I used to and I do eat quite a bit of raisins too.)

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                          Alomongerpete @Lejeboca
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                          How much borax should I put in to the water when bathing?

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