Agar agar
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I looked through the old raypeatforum but couldnfind a consensus about the value of agar agar. Does anybody know what Ray thought of it? I was thinking about using for upping my fibre intake, which I think is important.
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AI is often helpful.
Peatbot.com: Agar agar is a type of gum and mucilage that is commonly used as a thickener in foods. According to the context provided, there are concerns about the allergenic potential of gums and mucilages like agar agar. The FDA had declared them to be highly allergenic in the past, and there have been instances of allergic reactions, such as blisters in the mouth from contact with alginate, which is similar to agar agar. However, agar agar is widely used in the food industry today. While it is generally considered safe for most people, those with allergies or sensitivities to such substances should exercise caution.
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RP didn't like the family carrageenan.
I won't use agar agar. Guar gum is less problematic if there is moderate use.
Impact of the microbiota.Carrageenan and Ray Peat
Selon le Dr. Ray Peat: “Carrageenan contributes to the disappearance of the liver enzymes (the cytochrome P-450 system) that detoxify drugs, hormones, and a variety of other chemicals.”
Note: Cyp-450 is used to get rid of toxins.*) Carrageenan and liver enzyme
=> Impact on immune system: cytopathic effect on macrophages, potentiation of tumor growth (immune response suppressed).
=> Damage encountered to the liver and kidneys when regularly used.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF01967625 (see links too).*) Guar gum and gut bacteria
=> Guar gum induces a selective adaptation of microbial taxonomy and function. Stimulates Bifidobacteria and butyrate-producing bacteria in the human large intestine.
Note’editor: White side of the angel
Black side: Refined guar gum may heighten the intestinal inflammation in patients with IBD.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnut.2023.1160694/full
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S247529912311660X#:~:text=Conclusions,inflammation in patients with IBD.*) Galactomannan and sides effects
This polysaccharide may be produced by aspergillus => antifungal reaction by fragile / weak persons.*) Direct impact of commonly used dietary emulsifiers on human gut microbiota
Sabrine Naimi et al. 2021 Mar 22. doi: 10.1186/s40168-020-00996-6
Most, but not all, emulsifiers impact microbiota composition.
Stark detrimental impacts were observed in response to various carrageenans and gums, which altered microbiota density, composition, and expression of pro-inflammatory molecules.
Conclusions: These results indicate that numerous, but not all, commonly used emulsifiers can directly alter gut microbiota in a manner expected to promote intestinal inflammation. Moreover, these data suggest that clinical trials are needed to reduce the usage of the most detrimental compounds in favor of the use of emulsifying agents with no or low impact on the microbiota."Locust bean gum, HPMC, guar gum, and kappa carrageenan impacted various parameters in a reversible manner, while xantham gum, sorbitan monostearate, glyceryl stearate, maltodextrin, and P80 impacted various microbiota parameters, both compositionally and/or functionally, in a non-reversible manner
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7986288/ -
@DavidPS well, thanks, but AI is just regurgitating who knows what from who knows where...I was interested if ray had talked about it
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@LucH I guess those studies are not in favor of agar. Would wheat bran be better though?
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@LucH I don't really have a problem with wheat, that's i thought maybe wheat bran was a good fibre source.
Unfortunately, I am highly allergic to buckwheat. -
@DavidPS well, thanks, but AI is just regurgitating who knows what from who knows where...I was interested if ray had talked about it
I agree AI does not provide perfect answers.
Recently, I wanted Peatbot.com to explain if MSM is safe. I anticipated that the answer would be negative based on my memory of Dr. Peats statement. The answer was more positive than I expected. One of his interviewers from RadioOne Network sells MSM and pitches it during interview breaks. I believe Peatbot comingled Dr. Peats thoughts and the sales pitch. But it was not a show-stopper and I posted it anyway.
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"Locust bean gum, HPMC, guar gum, and kappa carrageenan impacted various parameters in a reversible manner, while xantham gum, sorbitan monostearate, glyceryl stearate, maltodextrin, and P80 impacted various microbiota parameters, both compositionally and/or functionally, in a non-reversible manner
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7986288/Happy New Year! This is part of your perfect answer.
