German New Medicine
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What do you know about GNM?
Doctor Geerd Hamer developed a challenging theory of medicine, inessence, it is a psychosomatic causation of illness.
It is criticized as quackery and fringe. I'm wondering if anyone is aware of it? There are overlapping ideas with Peat, though I think on complete opposite sides of the spectrum: materialism vs spiritualism. -
I've had a few interactions with one @MissytheMuse about this on twitter. It caught my eye for the claim of causation in conflict or shock requiring a resolution and manifesting physically while that's in progress. Also because that account's allegedly occupied by a scott and I love em. Even when they're being moody, defiant and irrational. Humour.
@Corngold said in German New Medicine:
It is criticized as quackery and fringe.
For its insistence on CT scanning the brain and apparent rigidity in ignorance of metabolism, I'd also take issue with its current form. But that's why we're here right corngold. To join it up move it along. What up and along. Exactly.
There are overlapping ideas with Peat, though I think on complete opposite sides of the spectrum: materialism vs spiritualism.
Walk with it.
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I'm really wanting to research its claims and any case studues given the founder's story is at once believable but also ridiculous. Then again, Peat said over 90% of medical studies follow phara market interest and I think this is accurate. Perspectives that don't make money don't get funding and a patient cured is a customer lost.
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@Corngold Dr Melissa Sell is easier to consume info on this than the German presenters. Mind-body medicine is NOT quackery and has been proven many times to work, including my own experience. NET is another example at healing cellular trauma. Remember-water has memory, cells hold onto our trauma. Flower Essences (NOT essential oils) also use this principle to heal emotional issues. We are vibration, which is basically how biochemistry works as everything has a vibration.
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@Marcine said in German New Medicine:
We are vibration, which is basically how biochemistry works as everything has a vibration.
Increase the Frequency > Decrease the Amplitude
Bioenergetics > "GNM"That's where I got to in thinking about where they might overlap. And ramping up the bioenergetics piece may only be required in the context of urban environments, questionable culture, corporate or otherwise physically expensive labour and overt conflict. For lack of time and space to rest and recuperate.
GNM alone seemed to imply the amplitude of a dis-ease response doesn't matter. Which made me wonder, because it could be "loud" enough to end someone.
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There's many modalities to help if you aren't resonating with GNM. I think the principals are valuable to relate to though.
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@Marcine said in German New Medicine:
There's many modalities to help if you aren't resonating with GNM.
I do in the sense that "dis-ease" could be a physical manifestation of a process of resolving conflict or shock. Both of which would have an endocrinological signature indicative of stress and require energy to resolve (another possible bioenergetic overlap). Discernment seems to me something that could happen at every level of an organism, in a way.
I certainly don't for the suggestion that CT scanning can be used trivially. Or that the context around the presentation of a conflict or shock isn't to be considered. I.e. that there couldn't already be an energetic burden on someone that may render the amplitude of their "dis-ease" response sufficient to kill them. In that sense GNM seems to me like it could be one end of something larger. A potentially dangerous end if taken in isolation.
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@Marcine said in German New Medicine:
Dr Melissa Sell is easier to consume info on this than the German presenters. Mind-body medicine is NOT quackery and has been proven many times to work, including my own experience. NET is another example at healing cellular trauma. Remember-water has memory, cells hold onto our trauma. Flower Essences (NOT essential oils) also use this principle to heal emotional issues. We are vibration, which is basically how biochemistry works as everything has a vibration.
Yes she seems to have a good grip on "practical" application of GNM and a good podcast introducing it.
A physical therapist mentioned bio-psycho-social as a newer model through which they and some chiropractors are working. Very interesting given the idea of a "placebo" effect. The problem with "placebo" is that it assumes the mind has zero influence on the body, which is ridiculous. If psychiatry were serious, they might prescribe sugar pills instead of actual pharmaceuticals to people whose condition was not extreme, in my opinion.The Cartesian mind-body dualism health paradigm is doomed. The bio-psy-soc model seems similar to GNM though more generalized. Either way I believe both are pointing in the right direction, because some of the basic ideas like the idea of spine and shoulders related morals, stress, injustice, did ring true for me.
No exaggeration, though the PT helped physically, I would say they were working on the important psychological problems. Psychiatrists, however, are more or less trying to solve nutritional problems. Actual medical doctors seem to be "solving" financial problems. The insurance is their "solution" to whatever the patient actually chooses. Similar to how each branch of the military is in charge of a different one. That seems to be what has happened in healthcare and biology
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@ThinPicking said in German New Medicine:
GNM alone seemed to imply the amplitude of a dis-ease response doesn't matter. Which made me wonder, because it could be "loud" enough to end someone.
Yes. I remain skeptical but somewhat hopeful of GNM. I think in one of Sell's podcasts they talk about how covid was a "death shock" conflict for so many people, which is accurate, given how the gov-media was literally trying to shock everyone into thinking they could die if they got sick. Then they relate that death shocks are linked to the lungs because one loses their breath or hyperventilates in panic situations. The covid / ventilator memoryhole is similar because it was literally talking about respirating / ventilating people. So the entire agenda of "I can't breathe" and "difficulty breathing" symptomatology seems like a sick joke from elites who know these simple facts.
The difficulty of "proving" it seems to be irrelevant. I think everyone remembers how much insanity, gaslighting and fear-mongering was happening, so I think it is pretty inseparable from what happened then, or after.
At the same time I think the body is very resilient. Even though our environment is being trashed and polluted, there is no utopia. Damage is inherent in function and life, just as much as repair and hope seem to be at the root of biological growth.
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@ThinPicking said in German New Medicine:
I certainly don't for the suggestion that CT scanning can be used trivially. Or that the context around the presentation of a conflict or shock isn't to be considered.
I wonder about the CT scan story especially. On the one hand, if the university / professional medical authority knew that CT scans could be possibly contributing to the shock or to the growth of cancer in the first place, then it makes sense why they would shut down Dr. Hamer quickly. It is actually illegal to practice GNM in Austria and possibly other countries in Europe. But it seems clear there was a cover-up and an intention to shut his work down. A theory needs to be tested before being shown as nonsense. On the other hand, I suppose this is my skepticism, the story of his son dying at the hand of an Italian royal, just sounds like lunacy. Is it even true? Was his son murdered intentionally for what Dr. Hamer was exposing?
Maybe it sounds like quackery, the sort of thing propped up by writers of nonsense in order for alt-health people to cling to to damage their own health. They'll see GNM as true automatically, because it was suppressed. But at a basic level, I think GNM is showing links to ancient medicine, whether Greek, Chinese or Indian. None of these systems live in an antiseptic white building, though, so there's already something organic and more "life-like" about them.
