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      wester130 @Mossy
      last edited by wester130

      not sure about emu oil, seems pointless, greasy too

      I would do alcohol tinctures of rosemary, mint and green tea.

      optional extras: hibiscus, neem, licorice, all as alcohol tinctures

      menthol can work as well as many anti inflammatory drugs

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        wester130 @wester130
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        interesting study on menthol,

        https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0026286216300401?via%3Dihub

        interesting study on licorice too

        https://www.researchgate.net/publication/320802200_Using_hair_growth_activity_physical_stability_and_safety_tests_to_study_hair_tonics_containing_ethanol_extract_of_licorice_Glycyrrhiza_glabra_Linn

        licorice/mint/rosemary would be interesting

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          Mossy @wester130
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          @wester130
          I do have licorice root on a reminder as well, to test various methods of delivery — which I've been snoozing for months now, with my original note being from years ago. I got this idea from Travis, who was a very knowledgeable member at RPF. I couldn't keep up with his knowledge and theories, but I gleaned that licorice root would provide enoxolone, which at the time he felt was a key factor in preventing hairloss.

          "To desire action is to desire limitation" — G. K. Chesterton
          "The true step of health and improvement is slow." — Novalis

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            Chud
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            things that helped halt my hair loss:

            • walking in the sun as much as possible (lowers cortisol / increases dopamine)
            • supplementing d3/k2/t3 (calcium regulation)
            • washing hair with baking soda (antifungal)
            • showering daily (lowers scalp cortisol)
            • cyproheptadine daily (lowers cortisol / serotonin)
            • aspirin daily (lowers estrogen / aldosterone)
            • daily carrot salad (lowers estrogen / prolactin)
            • heavily salting meals (lowers aldosterone)
            • having 1-2oz liver once or twice a week
            • light scalp massage with fingertips / knuckles few minutes daily (lowers scalp cortisol)
            • lowering intake of or eliminating inflammatory foods. (these foods can differ for everyone so perceive think act.)

            things that gave me significant regrowth

            • hair transplant

            breakfast for dinner enjoyer

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              Mossy @Chud
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              @Chud
              Thanks for sharing. All very Peaty.

              "To desire action is to desire limitation" — G. K. Chesterton
              "The true step of health and improvement is slow." — Novalis

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                wester130 @Mossy
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                @Mossy

                this has 100,000 reviews.

                that must be the most on amazon

                https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mielle-Rosemary-Strengthening-Infused-Porosity/dp/B0DJFVT9FZ?th=1

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                  Mossy @wester130
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                  @wester130
                  Now that is a lot of reviews. I wonder if those are all real.

                  Maybe the topical usage of PUFA would not be as big of a factor, but the first three ingredients are:

                  Vitis Vinifera (Grape) Seed Oil, Glycine Soja (SOYbean) Oil, Prunus Amygdalus Dulcis (Sweet Almond) Oil,

                  "To desire action is to desire limitation" — G. K. Chesterton
                  "The true step of health and improvement is slow." — Novalis

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                    wester130 @Mossy
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                    @Mossy

                    may aswell jsut make your own with alcohol tinctures

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                      Hearthfire @wester130
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                      @wester130

                      If you don't want to make your own and don't want any bad ingredients, here's a good one:

                      https://fountainheadhair.com/products/rosemary-lavender-growth-oil

                      Never used this product but its from someone who is into natural, organic non-toxic products. You don't get a lot, but you get the convienience of it being ready made and without any weird ingredients, just the oils.

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                        wester130 @Hearthfire
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                        @Hearthfire both look good

                        this too

                        https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/363770671807

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                          wester130 @Hearthfire
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                          @Hearthfire i was always interested in the idea of adaptogens for hair,

                          things like schisandra, rhodiola and eleuthero, but never made a decision about them

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                            Mossy @wester130
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                            @wester130
                            Yes, I tend to make my own tinctures, extracts to be able to control the ingredients.

                            @Hearthfire
                            That's a nice mixture, but on the costly side for 2oz. Granted, the initial cost to buy all those ingredients wouldn't be cheap; so, if someone had the budget, I could see the convenience factor outweighing the cost.

                            "To desire action is to desire limitation" — G. K. Chesterton
                            "The true step of health and improvement is slow." — Novalis

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                              Mossy @wester130
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                              @wester130
                              Yeah, the list goes on and on. I have many notes with many ingredients to try. Looking at my lists is almost a deterrent more than a motivator, because of of knowing what a long trial and error process it will be.

                              I forget if we've talked about taurine on this thread, but that's relatively cheap and there has been a lot of talk about it for hair over the last 10 years or so. Believe it or not, I believe I get sides from topical taurine, which are the same sides I get from taking it internally, which is fatigue and lethargy, but it's not as bad. Taurine gives me what I could define as very adaptogenic benefits, until the side effects kick in. It's a clear de-stressor for me and is one of the most system balancing supplements I've ever taken — at least it makes me feel that way. If it weren't for the side effects, I would take it regularly.

                              "To desire action is to desire limitation" — G. K. Chesterton
                              "The true step of health and improvement is slow." — Novalis

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                                Hearthfire @Mossy
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                                @Mossy said in Diclofenac gel to regrow hair on bald head and beard:

                                Believe it or not, I believe I get sides from topical taurine, which are the same sides I get from taking it internally, which is fatigue and lethargy,

                                Taurine is a muscle stimulant but also a mind relaxer. It improves your length and deepness of sleep, I've tested it, it works almost too good. That's why you get lethargic on it. People (myself included) also use it in pre-workouts, it is supposed to help with performance and recovery.

                                Taurine is also a common ingredient in hair growth shampoos, it's in Bloo and some others I've seen. It is known to help with hair growth. I'm using it in my homemade shampoo.

                                I've been trying to add it to my drinks more often, just sprinkle a little in there. I have to do a large dose to make me feel lethargic, but I've found even smaller doses help with sleep.

                                Update on diclofenac: Too early to say still, but I swear my vellus hairs are getting thicker in number and longer and some are going terminal in areas where I haven't had terminal hairs in a long time. The biggest changes to my routine has been the diclofenac, some hair growth supplements, and using a gua sha stone pretty vigorously.

                                I'm gonna add MSM into my routine to thicken the vellus hair, topical and oral. Also saw palmetto topical and oral.

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                                  Mossy @Hearthfire
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                                  @Hearthfire
                                  I have experienced all that you say with taurine, but regardless of the dose, I'll get the same side effects. You're fortunate, and like most who report on their experience, that it is beneficial in multiple ways.

                                  Glad to hear the diclofenac is doing well. I have MSM on my long lists of things, but once again I've only gotten sides from that in the past.

                                  "To desire action is to desire limitation" — G. K. Chesterton
                                  "The true step of health and improvement is slow." — Novalis

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                                    wester130 @Mossy
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                                    after everything, this became my final regimen

                                    dermastamp once a week, 2.5mm

                                    Topically a rosemary/mint ethanol tincture

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                                      Hearthfire @wester130
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                                      @wester130 0.5mm is supposed to be better. Why 2.5mm? sounds painful 😂 I could barely tolerate 2mm

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                                        A Former User @Hearthfire
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                                        @Hearthfire I read the deeper ones are better for regrowth

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                                          A Former User @wester130
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                                          @wester130 I am told rosemary causes endless sheds and peppermint is better

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                                            wester130 @Hearthfire
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                                            @Hearthfire it's only about 12 stamps, and it is done, quite easy

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