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    alex155
    last edited by 17 days ago

    friends, my TSH test is 2.0, but my hands and feet are cold! also my Alkaline phosphatase is elevated, do I have hypothyroidism? please give me some advice!

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      alfredoolivas @alex155
      last edited by 17 days ago

      @alex155 high cortisol causes low TSH, increases adrenaline making your extremities cold and it breaks down your body, increasing ALP

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        alex155 @alfredoolivas
        last edited by 17 days ago

        @alfredoolivas
        thanks for the answer!
        what to do in this case? coffee makes it worse, sugar doesn't work, orange juice makes me cold, coconut oil doesn't help either(

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          cs3000 @alex155
          last edited by 17 days ago

          @alex155 could have, that TSH isnt low. high alkaline phosphatase can indicate bile buildup in liver sometimes especially if combined with increase in ggt too

          "world," as a source of new perceptions
          more https://substack.com/@cs3001

          "Self-organizing systems decay only if they have assimilated inertia and — with a little support of the right kind— the centers of degeneration can become centers of regeneration"

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            alex155 @cs3000
            last edited by 17 days ago

            @cs3000
            yes, there are problems with bile, I have been taking UDCA for 3 years, I have biliary pancreatitis, I have light-colored feces, I also have orange calluses on my hands and feet, high cholesterol

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              cs3000 @alex155
              last edited by cs3000 17 days ago 17 days ago

              @alex155 ah do you have stones there then?
              liver can connect with hypothyroidism. t4 -> active t3 hormone conversion happens all over in cells but a large part of that happens in the liver

              "world," as a source of new perceptions
              more https://substack.com/@cs3001

              "Self-organizing systems decay only if they have assimilated inertia and — with a little support of the right kind— the centers of degeneration can become centers of regeneration"

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                alex155 @cs3000
                last edited by 17 days ago

                @cs3000
                ultrasound didn't show any stones, but they could be cholesterol stones, and ultrasound doesn't see them

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                  cs3000 @alex155
                  last edited by cs3000 17 days ago 17 days ago

                  @alex155 how did they or you get to it being biliary pancreatitis specifically?

                  "world," as a source of new perceptions
                  more https://substack.com/@cs3001

                  "Self-organizing systems decay only if they have assimilated inertia and — with a little support of the right kind— the centers of degeneration can become centers of regeneration"

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                    alex155 @cs3000
                    last edited by 17 days ago

                    @cs3000
                    my pancreas and the right side (gallbladder?) hurt when I press on the pancreas, the pain intensifies on the right side, and vice versa.
                    also the ultrasound showed an inflamed pancreas and chronic cholecystitis, but no stones were found, and they prescribed UDCA, so I've been drinking it for 3 years, without a break, it seems to reduce the pain, but the problem hasn't gone away(

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                      alex155 @cs3000
                      last edited by 17 days ago

                      @cs3000
                      maybe it's important...
                      I used to take finasteride and roaccutane (unfortunately) maybe that played a role too.
                      And thank you for spending your time on me, I really appreciate it!

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                        cs3000 @alex155
                        last edited by cs3000 17 days ago 17 days ago

                        @alex155

                        I would switch UDCA to TUDCA right away, and probably most of the effects are gained by 500mg

                        UDCA is toxic or at least easier to become toxic https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3430272/

                        TUDCA is safer and pretty much same effectiveness for this kind of thing. sometimes better in certain areas

                        theres this in cholecystitis https://www.semanticscholar.org/reader/f98d7e662e4dc23393d1c4b4b1c9bfebaef436da
                        i would try low fat diet <20% of calories combined with anti inflamm compounds e.g above or others

                        there's octacosanol which could fit well with anti inflammatory and atherosclerosis reducing benefits, but hesitant to mention it because idk about potential for it to increase bile acid load. it increases bile acid in feces at least. so there's potential for it to be detrimental , or a help. so cant help you with decision on that

                        "world," as a source of new perceptions
                        more https://substack.com/@cs3001

                        "Self-organizing systems decay only if they have assimilated inertia and — with a little support of the right kind— the centers of degeneration can become centers of regeneration"

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                          alex155 @cs3000
                          last edited by 17 days ago

                          @cs3000
                          thank you very much!
                          I will definitely look into this!

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                            cs3000 @alex155
                            last edited by 17 days ago

                            @alex155 np

                            "world," as a source of new perceptions
                            more https://substack.com/@cs3001

                            "Self-organizing systems decay only if they have assimilated inertia and — with a little support of the right kind— the centers of degeneration can become centers of regeneration"

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                              eduardo-crispino @alex155
                              last edited by eduardo-crispino 3 days ago 3 days ago

                              @alex155 have you thought about DHT , haidut has many articles showing how beneficial androgens are for inflammatory issues.

                              also. I read yesterday that people who are hypothyroid have issues like this, and people who are hyper actually have less.

                              maybe aspirin is worth trying even though it can be irritating at first

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                                alex155 @eduardo-crispino
                                last edited by 3 days ago

                                @eduardo-crispino
                                unfortunately, in my country it is forbidden to buy steroids without a doctor's prescription (criminal liability).
                                I have been taking aspirin daily for 14 years, 100 mg, because of problems with atherosclerosis.
                                regarding hypothyroidism, I am confused by the low TSH, I have an adrenaline reaction to coffee and cigarettes, with cold hands and feet, I am afraid that with thyroid hormones it will be even worse (maybe I am wrong)

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