My 1 week experience with <30g of protein and <30 low fat a day
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This experiment started spontaneously..
One day I didn't have time to cook meat, and the next day I started feeling a lightness in my body like i had 50kg.. walking, jumping felt so easy
During the day, I started talking more and more with my friend which it doesn't happen that often, we talk, but not for hours... it felt like i was more connected and openI didn't know what it is..
After some time I realized that it's methylation.. and a lack of it can lead to decreased cortisol and serotonin levels..
On the other side, I became more spiritual, I started getting into gnosticism randomly and got tripped on it for daysSince some ancient civilizations avoided meat because their journey of awakening is disrupted, maybe there is some truth to it, especially if it's factory grown meat where the animal suffers a lifetime
Besides this, the main benefits were:
- more connected to my friend - decreased cortisol and maybe serotonin
- good bowels all the time - no constipation, no diarrhea- i could eat even snickers, kinder bueno and other toxic shit - usually i would have to pick the right water, the right condiment, no coke in order to avoid constipation or diarrhea..
- no bloating
- good sleep all the time - no nightmares, just good trip
- feeling light and ready to see life outdoors
- ANGER WAS ABSENT, I NEVER GOT ANGRY ABOUT ANYTHING, which before that my serotonin levels became skyscrappers burj kalifa .. this was the main reason I continued the experiment. I was just doing my boring slave job repetitive soul killing dopamine drainer but my inner peace was intact.. couldn't be bothered by anything.. such a game changer
Downsides:
- you get tired of so much carbs, thus you eat less.. next day you may feel tired
- eating pasta kills the benefits, since 500g of it has around 50g of protein already
- feeling weak, if you see the benefits first you may get obsessed like myself and avoid all protein sources - but maybe more carbs are needed, I'm not sure
Between day 3 and 4, I decided to eat some ground beef. That day was top 10 most divided anti connection days of the year. Probably I got sensitive to it.
Diet was like:
- Dates, coke, rice, a meal of pasta 80g, plenty of pineapple Dole, mango, bread instead of pasta
carbs were over 450g
protein 20-30g
fat 20-30g from butter or olive oilNutrients? A bit of deficiency, next time I will get some orange juice instead of coke
From now on I will switch to fish, why not
Pasta, tuna and olive oil
dates
pineapple
mango
coke
rice for sleep
thats itEDIT: One key here is that protein increases the chances of getting endotoxin, especially from meat. Avoiding altogether shouldn't be the aim, but as Peat said once in a while may be the best guess.
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@Androsclerozat based, OUGABOUGA meat eating has real effects even in small quantities, it can increase stoïcism, decrease well being, decrease movement appreciation, decrease lightness, reduce heart sensitivity drastically. Better not to eat it unless you crave it or if you get symptoms that you know by experience get fixed by eating it and dont have any other ways to fix these symptoms
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@random I edited the post, i forgot to say about anger that was absent during the experiment
thanks for the insights, its indeed a game changer
i dont know who u are but you seem familiar by the way you writewhat do you think about fish in your experience?
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@Androsclerozat said in My 1 week experience with <30g of protein and <30 low fat a day:
what do you think about fish in your experience?
Fish it depend, gotta experiment with different fish and sources,i ate back some tuna steak recently and didnt feel specifically good from it.
sometimes fish can increase relaxation, well being, warmness, sexuality
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@random I ate tuna today and felt ok
probably the smaller the fish the better
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@Androsclerozat said in My 1 week experience with <30g of protein and <30 low fat a day:
@random I ate tuna today and felt ok
probably the smaller the fish the better
next time sardinesThis commun small vs big fish narrative is potentially wrong, i know many people with mogger skulls that eat tuna or more tuna than average, not so much with sardines
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this is my experience too, within 3 weeks of eating no meat and no added fat, my muscle activation is back like when I was going to gym everyday
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@Androsclerozat skipjack tuna reliably gives me intense feelings of wellness after having a can after not having it for awhile.
good point on pasta, I had 250g for two days in a row, I didn't know it has such protein amount
I started with parboiled rice, it is middle point of brown and white rice, has more nutrients than white rice but still removed fibre part in brown rice, seems like nice middle ground.
I am considering pea protein powder as maybe it can provide benefits of aminos after exercises without too much negatifś
your diet is similar to mine except I don't add any fats that aren't present in the natural food
I have cooked greens on rice and some eggshell powder also
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@eduardo-crispino sounds good
Now as an update, I started eating meat again and it really improved my recovery but its true indeed that my digestion was weakened
Also cortisol was higher probably from methylation
My motivation increased
Sleep quality decreasedI still think one meal of meat is enough and not mixed with starches in order to avoid endotoxin load
Separated seems that I dont get anger or frustration or bad emotions, just the mix is that creates the delusionI must try tuna separated too and see how it goes
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@Androsclerozat im really wondering if pea protein powder can give the benefits of aminos recovery without the bogging effect of some meats ...
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Very interesting, my experience mimics your a lot.
A few things,
I would be careful not to go full vegan, theres often a feeling of euphoria when avoiding meat and the tendency to start avoiding all animal products always leads to disaster?
Have you experimented with other meats or even just eggs? I have found eggs, especially yolks to be very satisfying and not in any way the same burden that meat, especially cow is.
Do you feel its the inflammatory aminos specifically, have you tried more gelatinous cuts?
I would not worry too much about nutrient deficiency. If you are eating/drinking plenty of fruit, that alone is mostly sustainable. A few times a week of some animal products and you will be fine. Although there is no harm in supplementing b vitamins, magnesium, selenium, zinc and iodine if needed. That should cover the big ones you could be lacking.
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Pea protein has a pretty terrible amount of contaminants. I would steer clear.
Honestly protein needs are vastly over blown in mainstream health circles. Nitrogen balance is achievable in the 60-90g a day realm. More usually doesnt lead to better health.
I have found that inflammatory aminos and fats are far more detrimental to health than most think.
Seafood if it wasnt for the incredible toxicity of the oceans, would be ideal. IMO its what humans evolved on. You can tell by the types of minerals that we need most, they are found abundantly in the sea. That and humans followed coastal climates throughout evolution.
Still i think there are some areas that are cleaner than others. Lean fish and bivalves from clean waters are probably best.
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@Zachs I've found a Canadian grown and processed golden pea protein powder that might be clean
pea protein has a better glycine:methionine ratio than whey, from a bioenergetic perspective
idk about the other aminos though, it's much higher in arginine than whey. there's a study showing it put on more muscle than whey.I think seafood is actually ideal and the fish contaminant issue is overblown apparently, as many plant foods have just as much if not more undesirable things. lean white fish and tuna and scallops and shrimp and mollusks are probably the best.
Kevin levrone apparently ate white fish for like 5-6 meals a day when preparing for a competition
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I believe just the way pea protein is made it is pretty high in heavy metals. Maybe see if your local one does any testing?
Honestly i dont think excess protein is even necessary. 2-3 days a week of some fish, eggs or meat of choice is plenty. Carbs are incredibly protein sparing and excess muscle mass is a waste.
Im unsure about the seafood thing, i mean they are definitely contaminated, theres plenty of industries testing heavy metal an plastic derivatives in seafood and some are at an alarming level. But i also agree that there is problems just as bad in other food supplies.
Ideally our bodies can handle just about anything when we are metabolically healthy.
