My 1 week experience with <30g of protein and <30 low fat a day
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@random I ate tuna today and felt ok
probably the smaller the fish the better
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@Androsclerozat said in My 1 week experience with <30g of protein and <30 low fat a day:
@random I ate tuna today and felt ok
probably the smaller the fish the better
next time sardinesThis commun small vs big fish narrative is potentially wrong, i know many people with mogger skulls that eat tuna or more tuna than average, not so much with sardines
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this is my experience too, within 3 weeks of eating no meat and no added fat, my muscle activation is back like when I was going to gym everyday
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@Androsclerozat skipjack tuna reliably gives me intense feelings of wellness after having a can after not having it for awhile.
good point on pasta, I had 250g for two days in a row, I didn't know it has such protein amount
I started with parboiled rice, it is middle point of brown and white rice, has more nutrients than white rice but still removed fibre part in brown rice, seems like nice middle ground.
I am considering pea protein powder as maybe it can provide benefits of aminos after exercises without too much negatifś
your diet is similar to mine except I don't add any fats that aren't present in the natural food
I have cooked greens on rice and some eggshell powder also
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@eduardo-crispino sounds good
Now as an update, I started eating meat again and it really improved my recovery but its true indeed that my digestion was weakened
Also cortisol was higher probably from methylation
My motivation increased
Sleep quality decreasedI still think one meal of meat is enough and not mixed with starches in order to avoid endotoxin load
Separated seems that I dont get anger or frustration or bad emotions, just the mix is that creates the delusionI must try tuna separated too and see how it goes
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@Androsclerozat im really wondering if pea protein powder can give the benefits of aminos recovery without the bogging effect of some meats ...
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Very interesting, my experience mimics your a lot.
A few things,
I would be careful not to go full vegan, theres often a feeling of euphoria when avoiding meat and the tendency to start avoiding all animal products always leads to disaster?
Have you experimented with other meats or even just eggs? I have found eggs, especially yolks to be very satisfying and not in any way the same burden that meat, especially cow is.
Do you feel its the inflammatory aminos specifically, have you tried more gelatinous cuts?
I would not worry too much about nutrient deficiency. If you are eating/drinking plenty of fruit, that alone is mostly sustainable. A few times a week of some animal products and you will be fine. Although there is no harm in supplementing b vitamins, magnesium, selenium, zinc and iodine if needed. That should cover the big ones you could be lacking.
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Pea protein has a pretty terrible amount of contaminants. I would steer clear.
Honestly protein needs are vastly over blown in mainstream health circles. Nitrogen balance is achievable in the 60-90g a day realm. More usually doesnt lead to better health.
I have found that inflammatory aminos and fats are far more detrimental to health than most think.
Seafood if it wasnt for the incredible toxicity of the oceans, would be ideal. IMO its what humans evolved on. You can tell by the types of minerals that we need most, they are found abundantly in the sea. That and humans followed coastal climates throughout evolution.
Still i think there are some areas that are cleaner than others. Lean fish and bivalves from clean waters are probably best.
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@Zachs I've found a Canadian grown and processed golden pea protein powder that might be clean
pea protein has a better glycine:methionine ratio than whey, from a bioenergetic perspective
idk about the other aminos though, it's much higher in arginine than whey. there's a study showing it put on more muscle than whey.I think seafood is actually ideal and the fish contaminant issue is overblown apparently, as many plant foods have just as much if not more undesirable things. lean white fish and tuna and scallops and shrimp and mollusks are probably the best.
Kevin levrone apparently ate white fish for like 5-6 meals a day when preparing for a competition
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I believe just the way pea protein is made it is pretty high in heavy metals. Maybe see if your local one does any testing?
Honestly i dont think excess protein is even necessary. 2-3 days a week of some fish, eggs or meat of choice is plenty. Carbs are incredibly protein sparing and excess muscle mass is a waste.
Im unsure about the seafood thing, i mean they are definitely contaminated, theres plenty of industries testing heavy metal an plastic derivatives in seafood and some are at an alarming level. But i also agree that there is problems just as bad in other food supplies.
Ideally our bodies can handle just about anything when we are metabolically healthy.
