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      Corngold
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      Has anyone dealt with this?
      Background - used to smoke cigarettes, weighed 180-190, walked a lot. Quit smoking, life and years went on, gained weight, lost weight several times. It isn't awful, but my neck skin is a bit loose. I notice it especially because I shaved my beard. It's dysphoric when also cutting hair because of balding. We can't all have chad jaw lines, but if my neck wasn't pseudo-fat then it wouldn't be as bad. Are there any neck stretches of workouts to tighten the skin?

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      • DavidPSD
        DavidPS
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        A number of years ago, I purchased a Facial Flex for my mother. She had a stroke and it resulted in a facial droop. The device was for rehabilitation. After using the device for a few weeks, the muscles in the lower half of her face and her neck tightened her skin and decreased the depth of her facial wrinkles.

        Youtube Video

        ““Effective health care depends on self-care” - Ivan Illich, 👀
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          Corngold @DavidPS
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          @DavidPS Interdasting.
          I found this. The stretches feel good.

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            samson @Corngold
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            @Corngold training the hyoid through neck flexion seems like a good bet. Also mewing for proper tongue posture

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            • DavidPSD
              DavidPS @Corngold
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              @Corngold - Thanks like Dr. Berg's exercises and I intend to incorporate them into a daily routine. Preventive sagging.

              This reminds of Face Yoga which loosely includes the neck.
              https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=face+yoga&sp=CAM%253D

              ““Effective health care depends on self-care” - Ivan Illich, 👀
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              • cs3000C
                cs3000 @Corngold
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                @Corngold elastin fibers are a main factor to look into restoring too so the skin can keep good form. some enzymes degrade the elastin fibers elastase & a couple of the MMPs are most relevant from what ive read ,
                frays & thickens the fibers

                so looking for things that target those,
                https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9060010/#ski258-sec-0070
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                things i put in a document:

                ergothionene (not from mushrooms because of beta glucan & androgens) , 
                hit 1.5mg copper , 
                hit 3000iu-5000iu Vitamin A,  
                30 minutes exercise sessions twice a week ,	 
                4g total glycine intake (maybe, not really a lack of collagen as problem?) , 
                take 200 mg TUDCA most days to sort ER stress ,   
                boswellia  (restores cartilage, so fits it restores skin function or prevents it being degraded) https://sci-hub.ru/10.1055/s-0029-1240581 BAs also enhance the metabolism of fibroblasts and, at the same
                time, they inhibit human leukocyte elastase [24] and hyaluronidase [25], as well as TNF-α-induced transcription, expression,
                and activity of MMP-1, MMP-3, MMP-10, and MMP-12 in human
                microvascular endothelial cells [5]. All these enzymes have a key
                importance in the degradation of the extracellular matrix, collagen, and elastic fibers
                reverse hypothyroid hypoxia
                lower H2O2-induced matrix metalloproteinase  (lower h2o2)
                lower neurophil elastase and neutrophil induced metallopreoteinase (lower neutrophil response, il-8)
                Inhibit MAPK  ? (mmp-12 -> mapk -> mmp9)
                Drink a glass or 2 of OJ a day https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5791357/#Sec14
                keep inflammation (macrophages) low ,
                if need more,  support fibroblasts
                

                "world," as a source of new perceptions
                more https://substack.com/@cs3001

                "Self-organizing systems decay only if they have assimilated inertia and — with a little support of the right kind— the centers of degeneration can become centers of regeneration"

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