Mole Removal Quiz
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Is it mole or a skin tag?
Skin tags have been associated with blood sugar issues.
You can catch more flies with honey than vinegar. 👀
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@DavidPS Yeah I heard about that. Don't have any of those, but I have a ton of moles for some reason. Are they associated to blood sugar in any way too? Or are they really entirely a genetic thing?
I still don't really understand, what function do they serve anyways? They're essentially benign skin growths that form from binding of melanocytes, and although rare, can become cancerous. But what's the point of these growths? And by that definition, does that mean more moles = higher chance of skin cancer?
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@orgon said in Mole Removal Quiz:
I've successfully removed moles with apple cider vinegar (probably any mild acid would work). Gently lance the mole with a needle, put ACV on a small cotton ball, put the wet cotton on top of the mole, cover it with a bandaid, and leave on overnight. Repeat. Takes a few weeks but the acid eats the mole.
I tried that many years ago and it was succesful for most places. However, one mole I treated that way actually got bigger instead of disappearing, which freaked me out.
Two years ago I tried the ACV on two elevated moles on my leg, but without the needle. I just put a cotton ball with ACV on that place for 30 minutes a day, and it disappeared after a few weeks. There's still a little redness on that place, but you hardly notice.
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@DavidPS said in Mole Removal Quiz:
Is it mole or a skin tag?
Skin tags have been associated with blood sugar issues.
I don't know if it's a coincidence, but the people I know with visible skin tags (on the neck for example) are all obese.
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@Peater0921 said in Mole Removal Quiz:
@Jennifer I see. I don't mind trying the 5% but I'm worried that it's gonna take ages
Someone else recommended me sodium hydroxide, not sure if that's worth a try.I understand. I guess it just depends on what you think would bother you more when going the caustic route (ACV, iodine, sodium hydroxide)—it taking longer to see results or potential scarring. Also, if you do decide on high potency iodine, you may want to keep an eye on your thyroid function. I would think even topically it can have an effect on the thyroid.
About the cause of moles—mine correlate with my thyroid function (an increase in moles with weak thyroid function and a decrease in moles with strong thyroid function), and Ray shared a similar experience. From an email exchange:
Moles
I’ve always been very cautious about moles, since I think they have the potential to degenerate into metastatic cancer. Around 1978, I had been watching one on my belly, that had enlarged from an original nearly flat soft light brown mole, to a large, irregular, leathery black thing. A couple of doctors had urged me to have it removed. I happened to be experimenting with steroids, including DHEA, at the time. One night as I went to bed, I saw what looked like a maraschino cherry on my belly, with a black crumb on its top; the black thing brushed off, leaving a spot of blood on the red dome, and I realized that it was my mole. Over the next 3 days the red sphere gradually deflated, and what remained was the soft, flat light brown original mole. Every few years I have had suddenly emerging moles, of various sizes and colors. Each time I would apply some progesterone or DHEA dissolved in vitamin E to the surrounding skin. If I applied it to just one side, there would be an emigration of cells on the other side, like a moving shadow of the mole, and the mole would lose volume and become lighter in color. When I had been in Florida and stopped using thyroid because of the heat and humidity, a 2 centimeter diameter mole (jumbo black olive-like) grew in front of my ear during 2 or 3 weeks. A soon as I returned to Oregon I started using thyroid, and the mole immediately began shrinking and fading. About two weeks later, the pale remnant on a dry stalk fell off, without leaving a scar. Since then I have generally recommended just becoming slightly hyperthyroid, if a person is generally in good health with enough cholesterol for conversion to the hormones), and other people have had similar experiences with very quickly shrinking moles.
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@Peater0921 said in Mole Removal Quiz:
I have a ton of moles for some reason. Are they associated to blood sugar in any way too? Or are they really entirely a genetic thing?
Skin tags and moles are different. I have read that others have found that their skin tags have spontaneously disappeared by changing their diet. I have not heard of any stories about moles being clearly related to diet. Maybe others who are reading this thread can benefit from knowing this distinction.
I am not certain that moles are an entirely a genetic thing. My amateur opinion is that new moles may be related to mismatch between our genes and our environment. Food is big interaction with our environment that can be changed. Chemical free "safe sun exposure" is another change we can make to lower the risk from the mismatch.
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Is it dangerous to just remove it with a sharp knife?
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@Jennifer Yes, I've read this article. I've also seen this text in the image below from Peat:
The thing is, I've supplemented with thyroid for a long time before, and there was essentially zero change in my moles...
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@DavidPS I see, thank you for sharing!
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@heyman Honestly, I think if you are very handy and can get a good ol' clean slice on it, I think it's not dangerous. Only one thing which most people will tell you is that if there is some sort of skin cancer going on, you will now no longer be able to see it directly since it's removed and since generally moles have deep roots in the skin, so there's that.
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@Luke I agree, I’ve always thought skin tags were from friction. People with large rolls seem to have a lot of skin tags around the area. They seem to form on large fat deposits.
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@Peater0921, when you say you supplemented thyroid for a long time before, other than the moles, did it resolve your symptoms? I have diagnosed thyroid disease and my thyroid function has cycled between hyper and hypo over the years and this may be purely coincidence, but it’s during the times I was hyperthyroid that the moles that appeared while I was hypothyroid disappeared.
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@Peater0921 have you heard of Black Salve? I looked into it recently and it eats the mole or any strange thing on the skin down to the root. Leaves a hole but it fills with skin after. The government warns against it but could be worth a look. Kills skin cancer too.
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@Jennifer I supplemented it originally to see the effects on my weight and there it did indeed help a bit. Slight increase in appetite, but besides that, I did not notice much. But also it was NDT, so not evenly dosed/synthetic. I guess I could try supplementing with dosable synthetic to get into that "slightly hyperthyroid" state Peat mention and see if that has any effect on my moles. But I'm not sure that it could do it more effectively/faster than direct application with iodine. One clear benefit though is that it would certainly save quite some time, doing applications on all the moles independently for several days/weeks on end.
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@GlucoseGal I've heard of black cumin but not black salve. Based on your description, it sounds like an excellent option. Is it difficult to source?
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@GlucoseGal said in Mole Removal Quiz:
@Peater0921 have you heard of Black Salve? I looked into it recently and it eats the mole or any strange thing on the skin down to the root. Leaves a hole but it fills with skin after. The government warns against it but could be worth a look. Kills skin cancer too.
The government warns against it? Say no more! I'm trying that stuff.
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Black salve: if hard to source by name
Look for Ichthammol topical ointment
It’s a drawing salve
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@Peatful A salve that is black
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Lol
Yes
Ichthammol may be an easier way to find
