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      TurkishPeater
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      Childhood friend of mine is constantly depressed and feels something is off.

      He says he wakes up groggy, head is heavy throughout the day etc.

      Always low energy and can only concentrate on video games and internet stuff.

      As friend group we only can make him come out of his house once per week lol.

      He tried some of my recommendations but that doesn't really help I think. He doesn't seem to follow them religiously too. What might be the problem? He is 23 male, normal BMI and no chronic disease.

      Just slow metabolism maybe? Poor lifestyle?( He probably sits 10-15 hours a day )

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        Sophocles @TurkishPeater
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        @TurkishPeater hope this helps! https://constantinek.substack.com/p/depression-and-mood-disorders

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          CO3 @TurkishPeater
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          @TurkishPeater Vitamin D. up to 15.000 IU's a day.

          Master Broth Recipe: https://twitter.com/thesquattingman/status/1737526599023526043 / https://recipeats.org/master-broth/

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            basednigga2006 @TurkishPeater
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            @TurkishPeater parasite infections can cause this

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              basednigga2006 @TurkishPeater
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              @TurkishPeater mold infections can also cause this

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                TurkishPeater @basednigga2006
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                @basednigga2006

                How to understand if there is infection? How to combat it?

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                  TurkishPeater @Sophocles
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                  @Sophocles

                  I made him take 50k for a week. Nothing changed suprisingly.

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                    basednigga2006 @TurkishPeater
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                    @TurkishPeater sorry but im not rlly knowledge about the cure of mold infection in the house or parasife infections in the body (psuedoscience)

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                      Harlock
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                      You have your answer in your question : Sitting all day = no movement = no bowel = infections, constipation, accumulation of serotonin. If he seats inside = no sun, no dopamin, no goal. If you combine that with video games and low dopamin state, blue light due to computer etc... depression will lower the metabolism even more. So change habits, get some motivation, read instead of playing video games, get some mix B vitamin, some carrot salade, some interviews, politics, spirituality, get a job that you like, make money, invest, win, lose and increase your metabolism would be the first thing to do (step by step of course). And then he can work out on more details things, go to gym, having a GF, wife, childrens or a personnal purpose that he will find motivation fighting for.

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                        Hando-Jin @TurkishPeater
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                        @TurkishPeater said in Constantly depressed friend, feels something is off for a long time:

                        Childhood friend of mine is constantly depressed and feels something is off.

                        He says he wakes up groggy, head is heavy throughout the day etc.

                        Always low energy and can only concentrate on video games and internet stuff.

                        As friend group we only can make him come out of his house once per week lol.

                        He tried some of my recommendations but that doesn't really help I think. He doesn't seem to follow them religiously too. What might be the problem? He is 23 male, normal BMI and no chronic disease.

                        Just slow metabolism maybe? Poor lifestyle?( He probably sits 10-15 hours a day )

                        a sign of the times

                        Vitamin D and thyroid are generally the most important thing for depression. Pregnenolone and DHEA worth experimenting with too.

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                          Hando-Jin @Harlock
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                          @Harlock said in Constantly depressed friend, feels something is off for a long time:

                          You have your answer in your question : Sitting all day = no movement = no bowel = infections, constipation, accumulation of serotonin. If he seats inside = no sun, no dopamin, no goal. If you combine that with video games and low dopamin state, blue light due to computer etc... depression will lower the metabolism even more. So change habits, get some motivation, read instead of playing video games, get some mix B vitamin, some carrot salade, some interviews, politics, spirituality, get a job that you like, make money, invest, win, lose and increase your metabolism would be the first thing to do (step by step of course). And then he can work out on more details things, go to gym, having a GF, wife, childrens or a personnal purpose that he will find motivation fighting for.

                          Behavioural changes never really work

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                            fucker @Hando-Jin
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                            @Hando-Jin They work for me, temporarily, for as long as I'm forced by my life situation to hold those changes up. Maybe what OP friend need is the military or prison, or a monks life.

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                              A Former User @TurkishPeater
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                              @TurkishPeater said in Constantly depressed friend, feels something is off for a long time:

                              hildhood friend of mine is constantly depressed and feels something is off.

                              He says he wakes up groggy, head is heavy throughout the day etc.

                              Always low energy and can only concentrate on video games and internet stuff.

                              As friend group we only can make him come out of his house once per week lol.

                              He tried some of my recommendations but that doesn't really help I think. He doesn't seem to follow them religiously too. What might be the problem? He is 23 male, normal BMI and no chronic disease.

                              Just slow metabolism maybe? Poor lifestyle?( He probably sits 10-15 hours a day )

                              I want to point you to a few articles for your consideration.
                              Neurological, Psychiatric, and Biochemical Aspects of Thiamine Deficiency in Children and Adults
                              "Thiamine (vitamin B1) is an essential nutrient that serves as a cofactor for a number of enzymes, mostly with mitochondrial localization. Some thiamine-dependent enzymes are involved in energy metabolism and biosynthesis of nucleic acids whereas others are part of the antioxidant machinery. The brain is highly vulnerable to thiamine deficiency due to its heavy reliance on mitochondrial ATP production. This is more evident during rapid growth (i.e., perinatal periods and children) in which thiamine deficiency is commonly associated with either malnutrition or genetic defects. Thiamine deficiency contributes to a number of conditions spanning from mild neurological and psychiatric symptoms (confusion, reduced memory, and sleep disturbances) to severe encephalopathy, ataxia, congestive heart failure, muscle atrophy, and even death. This review discusses the current knowledge on thiamine deficiency and associated morbidity of neurological and psychiatric disorders, with special emphasis on the pediatric population, as well as the putative beneficial effect of thiamine supplementation in autism spectrum disorder (ASD) and other neurological conditions."

                              also:
                              Vitamin B1 (Thiamine)
                              "Symptoms of thiamine deficiency are:

                              Headache
                              Nausea
                              Fatigue
                              Irritability
                              Depression
                              Abdominal discomfort 
                              

                              People with thiamine deficiency also have trouble digesting carbohydrates. This allows a substance called pyruvic acid to build up in the bloodstream, causing a loss of mental alertness, difficulty breathing, and heart damage, a disease known as beriberi."

                              Please note that thiamine deficiency is NOT rare. The rare part has to do with the medical industry identifying it correctly.

                              also:
                              Nutritional Brain Bomb: Thiamine Deficiency

                              also:
                              How Can Something As Simple as Thiamine Cause So Many Problems?

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                              • Hando-JinH
                                Hando-Jin @fucker
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                                @fucker Maybe what OP friend need is the military or prison, or a monks life.

                                boomer perspective

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