Coffee weird effects
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Hello, I have some doubts about coffee.
First, I'll start by saying that it's of good quality; I used to use a low-quality one, and the result was even worse.
When I use it one day a week, it usually makes me feel good, boosts my metabolism, energy, and mood.
If I start using it regularly, it drastically reduces my energy, makes me very irritable, and gives me a sensation as if my body is burning (in a bad way).The diet is good, sufficient protein, high carb, no PUFAs.
I've tried adding supplements; it slightly improves the situation, but it's hardly enough compared to the rest of the community's reports.
Some of these supplements are: magnesium, B vitamins, baking soda, vitamin D, red light, vitamin C, NAC.
Using NAC before sleep is what improves irritability the most.
My TSH is quite bad, 2.7 in summer and 3.3 in winter. (I'm waiting for my order to arrive with T3/T4)
I usually sleep around 8-9 hours (I always wake up tired).
I take daily walks with my dogs for 30-60 minutes and weight train 3-4 days a week.
Using 1g of aspirin per day also helps but not enough.
Could it all be related to my thyroid? I can't find anything else that could be affecting the outcome.
My temperatures usually range from 36-36.6 degrees Celsius.
My heart rate is around 60-70 beats per minute.
As I mentioned earlier, my energy levels are usually very low.
Sometimes irritability is so high that I often need an emergency benzodiazepine to calm down and sleep.
It's true that I experience quite a bit of daily stress due to personal situations. I started using 1mg of cyproheptadine with very good results. -
@DarthGomas How do you make it ? And I mean how do you make it usually?
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Preg has helped me tolerate coffee. Used to be like you, now not anymore.
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@DarthGomas I use an italian coffee pot, mid temp, slow brew
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@DarthGomas These pots you put on the stove?
They are awful. The water is much too hot, and the coffee is burnt. And the material they made of is often crap too.I drink a lot of coffee, and this is by far the worst method.
The cheapest may be a French press, but don't use boiling water. Boil the water, and then wait a few minutes to cool it down to put over the coffee.
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@DarthGomas could you maybe try another brand of instant coffee? Might be something specific to the brand you purchased...
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@Andreas Yes, I have an iron moka pot
I've thought of adding coffee to a dessert and see how that makes me feel.
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@DarthGomas milk and sugar helped me a lot with the same problem drinking coffe, was a radical black coffe abuser back then
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@DarthGomas and maybe try different ways to make your coffee like filter or pourover after trying french press
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@DarthGomas milk and sugar are essential for drinking coffee, but I’ll say that coffees not for everyone. If you feel good with one or two a week, just stick with that. If it doesn’t feel good don’t use it.
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Buy a Chemex. No metal in it and the filters get all of the grit and oil out. It's really good.
If you still get issues after that it might be a gut problem. I think you need pretty good digestion to not get negative effects from coffee. Coffee is a real irritant for someone with a digestive problem and it's often not apparent for a few days.
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@DarthGomas said in Coffee weird effects:
If I start using it regularly, it drastically reduces my energy, makes me very irritable, and gives me a sensation as if my body is burning (in a bad way).
Coffee blocks thiamine.
"As thiamine is an essential micronutrient for humans its needs are supplied from diet rich in thiamine, such as yeast, pork, legume and cereal grains. Enzyme called thiaminase I (EC2.5.1.2), present in raw fish, shellfish, tea and coffee, decreases thiamine absorption."also this one:
https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychiatry/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2019.00207/full
"Heavy consumption of tannin-containing or food rich in caffeine, theobromine, and theophylline (such as those present in coffee, chocolate, and tea, respectively) can inactivate thiamine, thereby compromising the thiamine status (7, 14, 15)."and this one:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5753639/
"Plant-derived anti-thiamine factors, heat-stable compounds known as polyhydroxyphenols, which include caffeic acid, phenols, flavonoids, and tannins, are present in certain plants and destroy thiamine by an oxidative process that transforms it to non-absorbable thiamine disulfide [17,63,66,87,88,89,90]. Plants containing polyhydroxyphenols include coffee, tea, and some fruits and vegetables, such as blueberries and red cabbage [17]. "The experts can't seem to agree on exactly what in the coffee messes with thiamine (thiaminase I? caffeine? polyhydroxyphenols??) but they know it's something. I had a terrible reaction to a few sips of coffee when I was thiamine deficient and it nearly made me collapse onto the floor. I don't try to drink it anymore.
