Wilhelm Reich, Vril, Esoteric Peatlerism
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Robert Sepehr has a lot of videos discussing orgone energy, vril, chi, etc in depth if anyone is looking to learn more, it comes up a lot in his work. Also the Kate Bush song Cloudbusting is about Wilhelm Reich if anyone is familiar with it lol. He's a very interesting and underdiscussed figure
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@greg great song brother, hadn't made that connection before very cool.
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@jens Just Shungite I purchased off Amazon. It was not verified by any governing body or organization (to my knowledge).
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@sladerunner69 I want this to be true. I find I can trick myself into thinking the shungite is being effective based on weird anomalies with the reader, depending on how I'm holding it, like my field or body is interrupting the reading, not the shungite. But if I place the piece of shungite on a table and set the reader down, there is zero effect. I'm using a trifield and have used multiple pieces of shungite, including some coming directly from a main source in russia. I had a friend who sold shungite and discovered this independently, and then stopped selling it.
Either way, your results got me questioning myself enough that I'm going to try again. This was a while ago.
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funniest reich story: he gave a copy of his new book, The function of the Orgasm to his mentor freud, who only had this to say: "that thick, huh"
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Peat mostly mentioned him in regards to character enarmorisation, like in "Listen little man" or "The Mass psychology of fascism", or an approach through making a system out of autonomous nervous system etc.. I recommend the latter book if you actually want to read his stuff, except all the orgone/orgonite things
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thought I would share some interesting tables and charts from "the function of the orgasm"
This image is detailing the continual increased sexual energy in an unhealthy person. They are stimulated but they do not see a full drop down to baseline. This chart is strikingly similar to how prolactin and estrogen behave in a hypothyroid person. As mentioned in the OP, the inability to offload estrogen, and to return to baseline prolactin levels leads to sexual dysfunction, nymphomania, as well as the many other health problems associated with estrogen and prolactin dominance. Reich had the same findings as haidut, but through a slightly different lens
In this image reich outlines his observations of the "sexually inhibited" state to the "sexually liberated" state. or the "sympathetic effect vs. the parasympathetic effect" Notice how similar it is to operating in the stress state (PTH, cortisol, NO, estrogen, serotonin) opposed to operating in the euthyroid state (C02, T3/t4, progesterone etc..)
The findings are very similar, the flow of energy are central to both disciplines. It is remarkable how similar it is.
I have yet to construct an orgone accumulator because I am looking for a material that will be a suitable outer shell, the material used in the handbook is no longer attainable in my understanding, so I need to do more digging in obscure corners of the internet.
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if the orgone chamber works I will make a cloudbuster and turn the high desert steppe into a lush oasis for peaters to start a breakaway civilization.
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@jens yea exactly what I was thinking when i read this, made a thread on this but your commment is much better , I have personal experience with t3 and lowering prolactin with bromo and my orgasms became much more satisfying . Before I was also on nofap train simply because of how I would feel right after.
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I've always asked my self why I knew of both Reich and Aajonus long before I had heard of Peat. I have had a physical copy of the orgone accumulator handbook for years now but never ended up finishing it and I had also planned on buying an orgone blanket from his store but never got around to it. Did you know that James Demeo passed away just 7 months before Ray Peat, and they were both from Oregon?
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@Dakota I was unaware that his passing and his home were both so close to peats. I think they were definitely up to some funny business there.
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Reich founded the practice of "vegetotherapy" its the belief that emotions and past experiences manifest themselves physically in the organism. Reich claimed to have cured many clients physical and psychological defects. The practice involves the "breaking up and releasing" of the biological damning of orgone throughout the bodies tissue. Stress causes the hardening and rigidity of the organism as a protective mechanism, only through allowing the flow of energy to flow uninterrupted can the organism reach its optimal state. Very similar to peats idea of "energy and structure are interdependent at every level." I will post some of the more interesting case studies later.
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@jens I would love to see those case studies, where can I find more information about the vegetotherapy? I like the idea of breaking the "dams" that impede energy flow, sounds like there is much overlap between TCM, Peat, and Reich.
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Interestingly enough, one of the primary noticeable effects of Reich's orgone accumulator boxes was that it would heat up the user's body quite dramatically, but never in a way that was uncomfortable. Very reminiscent of Peat's thoughts on metabolism.
Someone on here should make one and test it on themselves.
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@Dakota I read about it a lot in his book "The function of the orgasm" I think out of all of his books that one is likely the one that covers the most bases. I also think that his book "character analysis" talks about it quite a bit. I think both can be found for free on archive.org. Also I don't think it is difficult to find physical copies of the books, from what I've read so far it can be very dense at times.
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@ATP yeah lots of crazy experiments done with them. I plan on making one as soon as I can source absurd amounts of steel wool.
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Made the first orgone accumulator device last night. This is a report on my initial findings.
3 layers of cotton batting alternating with layers of steel wool, thin muslin cloth to emplace these pads and make it comfortable for skin applications. made in two pieces and fashioned in the shape of a cylinder, big enough to wear comfortably over the head and it goes down to just above the nose. Made just in time to use it for sleeping.
I will include any night time supplements I regularly take in the report.
650 mg aspirin
200 mg thiamine
one teaspoon baking soda
one small drop of progesterone orallyI take this stack most nights before sleep. I always unplug everything in my room, shut off all electronics and remove them from my room. However I do not always remember to shut off the WIFI which is in the opposite corner of the house, but i did shut it off last night. Otherwise my sleep routine remained exactly the same but with the introduction of the orgone helmet.
To provide context, the whole winter i have had severe insomnia, usually not able to fall asleep before 5:00 AM. will lie in bed with racing thoughts for many hours before I am able to sleep, this has been the case every night for the last 4 months or so. I usually wake up with little to no energy all throughout the day, and then the mind begins racing again in the evening hours, a severely disrupted circadian rhythm.
Last night, while wearing the orgone cap I was able to fall asleep after 30 minutes or so. Things I noticed while wearing the cap
-Warm, tingly sensation, similar to the feeling i get when taking the right dose of thyroid or tocovit.
-Reduced tinnitus
-heart rate increase 5bpm from 83 to 88 bpm
-Calmed my thoughtsAt some point during the night I woke up and took the helmet off, I fell quickly back to sleep. Interestingly I had a dream in which I could speak perfectly fluent french, in spite of only taking a single french class 10 years ago, it wasn't gibberish in my mind but perfectly sound and grammatically correct french, even upon waking I was still thinking partially in french and had a grasp of the vocabulary and could understand it some. All of the dreams I had that night were incredibly vivid. Also interestingly, I woke up with the orgone helmet back on my head, in spite of the fact that I consciously remember removing it during the night. I must have either subconsciously put it back on while I slept, or some other force once again crowned me with the helmet.
Also, for the first time in a very long time i woke up full of energy, and was able to get much done in the morning hours, which is something that I never have been good at.
Here are some things to consider:
The benefits I saw could've been a placebo, or it could be from a general increase in brain temperature from the insulation. However, the last few months i have been wearing a beanie while sleeping and have not noticed any positive effects, I always wake up without the beanie on. The helmet is much thicker, cozier, and more comfortable. It could just be the fact that it is keeping my head even warmer.
I will continue to conduct more experiments with this device. If any of you have anything you'd like me to try or experiment i would be happy to do so. While I am not using my orgone helmet in person I think I will store my NDT and idealabs supplements in it. People commonly use these devices for their fruits/seeds and such.
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@brad I think I found the quote you were referring to from day one on the back of a tiger "In that same period, I visited some of my Reichian friends in San Francisco. One of them worked at the Exploratorium and they took me there just after hours to show me what was what with the Exploratorium. And at one of the displays, it was a cloud chamber. She turned it on and was going to show how you could visualize the cosmic rays in the clouds. And as it clouded up, that aroused my interest. So I moved up close to the cabinet and the cloud disappeared in a cylinder shaped like my body. As I backed away, the cloud filled in the space and it was like there was a field destroying the condensation in that area. But as soon as I took thyroid, I've never had any of those excessive field effects." -Ray peat
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@jens That's it! Wow, really glad it was a real quote and I wasn't misremembering.
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@brad Interesting relationship here with the artificial cloud and reichs cloudbuster. Orgone, or neutrino seems to be intimately involved in the cloud process. While peat was hyperthyroid he displaced and dissolved the cloud in the exact shape of his organism. I think hypothyroid individuals do the opposite and accumulate this cloud essence. When someone "has a cloud over their head" they literally have something about them that accumulates and concentrates a negatively charged neutrino, or have created some sort of vacuous void of which the cloud fills.
