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    the vitamin A toxicity grift needs to end

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      S.Holmes @A Former User
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      I love this new forum. It gives me a place to vent and keeps me out of trouble over on the RP forum šŸ™Œ

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        S.Holmes @S.Holmes
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        I'm probably in trouble now. šŸ˜’
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          sphenoid @S.Holmes
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          @S-Holmes You're done.

          What does mr. smith's face tell you? To me he looks terribly ill and it seems like his entire facial structure is melting, his eyes are especially concerning.

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            S.Holmes @sphenoid
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            Yes, indications of hypothyroidism in his eyes. His skin is also very pasty, no glow of health. Does anyone know his age?

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              S.Holmes @S.Holmes
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                henkboogaart014 @thyroidchor27
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                @thyroidchor27 i remember ray peat saying that as time went on he only ate the liver once a month instead of once a week due to the vitamin a content, but this doesnt mean that he got hypothyroid everytime he ate it or that vitamin a is always bad to consume. It just means he was eating more than he needed

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                  S.Holmes @henkboogaart014
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                  @henkboogaart014

                  I stopped eating liver several years ago. I'm on the fence about using a very small amount of retinol topically, and intuitive eating is what I now practice. No hard and fast dietary restrictions except for seed and nut oils.

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                    S.Holmes @S.Holmes
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                    I don't know about you all but I'm looking forward to digging into this one.

                    Is Hidden49 on this forum yet? If not, who wants to invite them? Better do it quick before they get zapped.

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                      Zpol
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                      I finally got a chance to read over this Vit A deficient diet that's being talked about.
                      Seems to me the diet being promoted would create a choline deficiency over time, which is a contributing factor to dementia. And, I have noticed in the people promoting it (Grant, Charlie, Garrett) a particular aggressiveness. Which is in fact associated with the onset of dementia.

                      Anyone with me on this?
                      Has anyone noticed the odd aggressiveness of these people? I'm sure they're well meaning individuals but there's just something off about the way they share their thoughts.

                      Edit.. seems like it's going from one extreme to another.

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                        S.Holmes @Zpol
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                        @Zpol šŸ™‹

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                          Peatly
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                          Apparently this is what you should be eating

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                          A successful depopulation agenda requires high excess death rates, lower birth rates and for the majority to vilify those that question it.

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                            S.Holmes @Peatly
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                            @Peatly I like all of those foods but WHERE is my rainbow? Gotta have it. I actually crave vegetables, even salad. Does anyone remember Dr.Lita Lee? She was one of RP's friends and promoters and I did a consult with her. She told me to eat salad. I was happy to oblige.

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                              Peatly @S.Holmes
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                              @S-Holmes Yes I do remember her. Personally I don't eat salads, I don't tolerate them since before peating. I do love cooked greens.

                              A successful depopulation agenda requires high excess death rates, lower birth rates and for the majority to vilify those that question it.

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                                S.Holmes @Peatly
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                                @Peatly šŸ˜‹

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                                  ilovethesea @Regina
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                                  @Regina said in the vitamin A toxicity grift needs to end:

                                  Is there any way that Charlie has been made an offer he literally could not refuse? We'll give you this (n = lots) money and you'll step aside. Otherwise, we'll throw you in jail for whatever horseshit we feel like??

                                  Although, he was never a sharp dude.

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                                  I feel like he’s not smart enough to run a long con and he really does believe he is right with this low toxin garbage. Someone said in another thread that he has some fundie chat where he recruits other religious loons to the forum. I wonder if someone sinister took advantage of that and his obvious mental illness to manipulate him into self destructing RPF. And maybe that person is also ā€œthreatening his familyā€ under another name to fuel the crusade.

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                                    ilovethesea @Zpol
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                                    @Zpol yes the vitamin A people are unwatchable for that very reason. Hard to believe long term followers of zen Ray would even entertain that energy

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                                      ilovethesea @Peatly
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                                      @Peatly Looks like something my cat threw up

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                                        Verdad
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                                        Just watched parts of the video...omg how have so many people fallen for this guy. He is talking absolute nonsense!

                                        He thinks cancer is an "accumulation of toxins in an area that the body walls off". What a bunch of nonsense.

                                        He is claiming that sunburn happens because of the frying of vitamin A in the skin.

                                        Saying that tanning is evidence of the burning of the skin from vitamin A and if it was healthy the body would keep it. So why then do people tan more when they take tyrosine?

                                        The guy sounds like a complete charlatan I get major fake guru, con man vibes from him.

                                        I'm really pissed off this guy has helped destroy the ray peat forum with his utter bs

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                                          Peatly
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                                          PeterSN is getting amazing results after only a week and half of low vitamin A diet. For someone who has low cholesterol it is truly a miracle!! 🤦

                                          A successful depopulation agenda requires high excess death rates, lower birth rates and for the majority to vilify those that question it.

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                                            ilovethesea
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                                            Adding some info here about Garrett that I had posted on the ā€œnew RPF missionā€ thread:

                                            Garrett Smith was promoting himself on Matt Stone’s 180 degree health blog as far back as 2012-2013 and they also wrote a paleo book together. This is what Matt does - he makes a 6 figures monthly income churning out books under his name as well as the pseudonym ā€œBuck Floggingā€. With his business books it’s clear he has complete disdain for his audience and literally teaches others how to rip people off with shady marketing tactics. He admitted on YouTube recently that his health advice like ā€œeat for heatā€ was all wrong but he won’t pull those books from the market. Total lack of ethics.

                                            Garrett’s Toxic bile/low vitamin A grift seems to have got its start on Matt’s blog in 2018: https://180degreehealth.com/vitamin-depletion-discussion-dr-garrett-smith/ Apparently Matt’s been on it since that time and if you want to see how well it’s working look up his YouTube video (not a great advertisement for Garrett, haha). I couldn’t believe it was the same person.

                                            This is Matt’s diet now: ā€œI’d prefer my diet to be full of potatoes and turnips and white asparagus and pears and such. But it’s mostly chicken, beef, pasta, rice, white bread, Gatorade, and store-bought cookies, lol.ā€

                                            These two are peas in a pod grifters and it’s ABSURD that Garrett an obvious charlatan would be held in higher account than Ray himself on Ray Peat Forum!

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