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    S.Holmes @Razvan
    last edited by Feb 22, 2024, 2:07 AM

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      ilovethesea @yerrag
      last edited by Feb 22, 2024, 6:20 AM

      @yerrag His ego is off the charts!!! Fck him for praising how that guy talked to him. So he gets to gleefully piss on Ray’s grave and pull a bait and switch to sell out the forum to Garrett Smith... but god forbid we don’t use the right “tone” to address him.

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        ilovethesea
        last edited by Feb 22, 2024, 6:24 AM

        Look at the forum list now... charlie’s low toxin spam at the top and even Grant and Garrett get their own subforums above the Ray Peat section. What a disgrace 🤮
        Screenshot 2024-02-22 at 1.21.15 AM copy.png

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          Hando-Jin @ilovethesea
          last edited by Hando-Jin Feb 22, 2024, 6:35 AM Feb 22, 2024, 6:32 AM

          I don't think it's even his religious fanaticism that rankles me, more his duplicitous streak. The constant gaslighting about the need to enforce ethics while displaying less than a used car salesman. It seems this is pretty common among mormons in business, a bunch of snakes and crooks.

          He acts like a typical BPD nightmare of a person. He's probably never got over Ray's comments about christians were historically some of the worst people on the planet.

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            A Former User @ilovethesea
            last edited by Feb 22, 2024, 6:41 AM

            @ilovethesea Meanwhile they're insulting @yerrag in his own thread and praising the ban.

            https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/unlimited-oxygen-intake-is-crucial-but-taken-for-granted-until-your-lungs-no-longer-provide-it.50689/page-9

            Also, Charlie breaks his own Rules:

            j. Use of AI.

            When he posted a hilariously bad speech by ChatGPT.

            k. Disparaging of forum.

            When he disparages Ray Peat and forum members

            b Harassment of other users, name calling, etc.

            When he permits insulting @yerrag's character, etc.

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              A Former User
              last edited by Feb 22, 2024, 6:44 AM

              https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/psa-do-not-start-on-niacin-if-you-are-still-living-a-toxic-lifestyle.52590/

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              Hmm. Whats up here?

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                A Former User @Hando-Jin
                last edited by Feb 22, 2024, 6:48 AM

                @Hando-Jin They even admit Garrett Smith is bad at presenting evidence and making arguments when @haidut retorts their claims. In other words, their own guru is stupid and slow by their own confession.

                https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/optimal-vitamin-d-intake-may-be-at-least-2-000-iu-daily.52621/page-2

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                  yerrag @A Former User
                  last edited by Feb 22, 2024, 8:07 AM

                  @jwayne said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                  @ilovethesea Meanwhile they're insulting @yerrag in his own thread and praising the ban.

                  https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/unlimited-oxygen-intake-is-crucial-but-taken-for-granted-until-your-lungs-no-longer-provide-it.50689/page-9

                  Also, Charlie breaks his own Rules:

                  j. Use of AI.

                  When he posted a hilariously bad speech by ChatGPT.

                  k. Disparaging of forum.

                  When he disparages Ray Peat and forum members

                  b Harassment of other users, name calling, etc.

                  When he permits insulting @yerrag's character, etc.

                  Thanks. for sharing. I didn't get to go back to read these, so they are new to me. I know it's easy to assassinate someone's character when one knows the subject cannot respond. It happens all the time after one leaves a company he used to work in, or after one dies. It's par for the course. I learned that early and I'm never going to repeat that mistake in judgment. Some people you just never know who they really are. But saying that, just one post said about me by a person may still be well-intended even though the way it was said could be seen as derogatory without much more context to it. Some people are impulsive in mouthing off and what they say wouldn't come out right. So all is good with these people. Some of them are already with us in this forum. Glad to have them here as well.

                  Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                  engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                  wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                  the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                    Melora @S.Holmes
                    last edited by Feb 22, 2024, 9:28 AM

                    @S-Holmes I'm pretty sure mosaic01 is not Charlie. I exchanged a few DMs with mosaic in DMs back in 2016, and he's not from the US and he messaged me because I'm from the same country as he is. He was super nice and very intelligent.

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                      A Former User @Melora
                      last edited by Feb 22, 2024, 9:38 AM

                      @Melora
                      @S-Holmes
                      @ilovethesea Yesterday Charlie said this;

                      After further consideration, I am retracting my stance on not allowing pro "vitamin A" studies
                      Thank you. You made the right choice.

                      It is still my position that if "vitamin A" is needed, it is such a small amount, avoiding it as much as possible will yield great results so that accumulation does not come into play. I have seen this work for myself, and many others. In the coming months as we move closer to a low toxin lifestyle the results will speak for themselves. I have no doubt, in the future, as a group we will understand that this was a great move as many will start reaping the benefits of this newfound knowledge.

                      Interesting😕

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                        A Former User @Melora
                        last edited by Feb 22, 2024, 9:52 AM

                        @Melora said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                        @S-Holmes I'm pretty sure mosaic01 is not Charlie. I exchanged a few DMs with mosaic in DMs back in 2016, and he's not from the US and he messaged me because I'm from the same country as he is. He was super nice and very intelligent.

                        We can definitely rule out Charlie then.

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                          A Former User @A Former User
                          last edited by Feb 22, 2024, 10:00 AM

                          @Luke Do you think Charlie might be suffering with andropause?, I know some people believe there is no such thing, but of late he seems to have mellowed (a bit). It's interesting as now he letting pro Vit A studies on the forum................Dunno😕

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                            Kvirion @A Former User
                            last edited by Feb 22, 2024, 10:12 AM

                            @Not_James_Bond said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                            Do you think Charlie might be suffering with andropause?

                            It may be a case of (temporary?) androgen insufficiency - low vitamin A may cause low testosterone and high cortisol levels...

                            A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
                            Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
                            There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
                            And drinking largely sobers us again.
                            ~Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism

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                              Melora @A Former User
                              last edited by Feb 22, 2024, 10:15 AM

                              @Luke 😂 😂

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                                DonkeyDude @Verdad
                                last edited by Feb 22, 2024, 10:30 AM

                                @Verdad said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                Again everyone going to be walking on eggshells unsure of what they can and cannot say, one day it will be ok to talk about vitamin D the next day it won't total and utter shambles.

                                It's ridiculous. Ray Peat has mentioned Vitamin A in many of his articles (that come with references to studies). That means that you can get banned from Ray Peat Forum for posting an article by Ray Peat. Let that sink in.

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                                  A Former User @A Former User
                                  last edited by Feb 22, 2024, 10:31 AM

                                  @Not_James_Bond said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                  @Luke Do you think Charlie might be suffering with andropause?, I know some people believe there is no such thing, but of late he seems to have mellowed (a bit). It's interesting as now he letting pro Vit A studies on the forum................Dunno😕

                                  He has mellowed? I looked up that term in two dictionaries (English isn't my native language), but there must be another definition, because mellow is the exact opposite of how I perceive Charlie as of late. He has become an insane tyrant.

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                                    A Former User @A Former User
                                    last edited by Feb 22, 2024, 10:40 AM

                                    @Luke
                                    @Kvirion Time will tell, thanks🤔

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                                      DonkeyDude @Peoples
                                      last edited by Feb 22, 2024, 10:47 AM

                                      @Peoples said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                      I think he is in the process of changing the name. The email announcements say Low Toxin Lifestyle as well now.

                                      The only thing left is the domain. Which he is likely registering and wil then migrate the site.

                                      And of course raypeatforum.com will then redirect to "Low Toxin Lifestyle"

                                      That's just my assumption based on what I see so far.

                                      I don't think he is going to change the name. He has already threatened people for suggesting it and he's still claiming that this "toxic bile theory" is a continuation of Ray's work.

                                      He is running a standard entryist playbook:

                                      1. Identify a respected institution.
                                      2. Enter it under a guise of supporting its goals.
                                      3. Take over.
                                      4. Gut it from the inside.
                                      5. Use the respectable brand name and any resources left for your own goals.

                                      Charlie is basically Puzzle the donkey from CS Lewis' Last Battle, doing the bidding of a greedy, ruthless ape (Garrett Smith) while wearing a lion/God skinsuit.

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                                        Peatful @A Former User
                                        last edited by Feb 22, 2024, 11:47 AM

                                        @Not_James_Bond said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                        @Melora
                                        @S-Holmes
                                        @ilovethesea Yesterday Charlie said this;

                                        After further consideration, I am retracting my stance on not allowing pro "vitamin A" studies
                                        Thank you. You made the right choice.

                                        It is still my position that if "vitamin A" is needed, it is such a small amount, avoiding it as much as possible will yield great results so that accumulation does not come into play. I have seen this work for myself, and many others. In the coming months as we move closer to a low toxin lifestyle the results will speak for themselves. I have no doubt, in the future, as a group we will understand that this was a great move as many will start reaping the benefits of this newfound knowledge.

                                        Interesting😕

                                        Im led to believe
                                        Or assume here
                                        That this is another subtle move to cover his ass
                                        The first being the header change

                                        Grant’s work (books)
                                        Like Peat’s
                                        Is “copyrighted”

                                        To add a nuanced change
                                        He may be trying to avoid any issues with Grant here

                                        My FIL says (attached) is a violation
                                        Understandably on a forum/domain under the mans name and work

                                        Again
                                        If anyone is close to Katherine
                                        If she’s not aware
                                        It’s worth mentioning

                                        She may give zero shtts
                                        And let Peat rest in peace
                                        Or
                                        She might want to exercise her rights for him
                                        And let Ray rest in peace

                                        ![alt text](image url) https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/the-toxic-ray-peat-diet-lifestyle-is-keeping-many-in-captivity-ray-peat-never-offered-a-way-out.52612/

                                        The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                                        SD

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                                          A Former User @Peatful
                                          last edited by Feb 22, 2024, 1:53 PM

                                          @Peatful Yeah, that header=The Toxic Ray Peat Diet & Lifestyle is plain 'nasty', there is no diet, just principles and what the hell did Charlie know of his lifestyle, heck I don't think he ever met the Man!

                                          That is blatant disrespect, leaves individuals feeling directly attacked, and its effects can be immediate and profound😠

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