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    nomaanali212
    last edited by Mar 10, 2024, 5:05 PM

    Screenshot 2024-03-10 164939.png Screenshot 2024-03-10 164955.png Screenshot 2024-03-10 165002.png

    context;
    I'm 20M, had low T for over a year & i've done everything i can think of to increase it but not much progress
    in brackets is the dates of previous tests for reference

    ask for more context & appreciate all the help

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      Master
      last edited by Master Mar 11, 2024, 3:38 AM Mar 11, 2024, 3:36 AM

      Have you had a doctor discuss possible causes? I mean this must be some serious testicular issue given that other hormones are in range. I'd be curious what your DHT is at. Also why is your B12 so high?

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        nomaanali212 @Master
        last edited by Mar 11, 2024, 8:36 AM

        @Master so ive been working with the doctors since april of last year, been a really slow procedure & have had numerous tests since. Recently had an MRI done on my pituitary & came back clear about 2 weeks ago, & then had bloods done ago last week. Theyve diagnosed my with hypogonadotropic hypogonadism & tbh ive been doing everything i can think of to improve it naturally (following majority of the bioenergetics guidelines as well as research deeper n deeper). Idk why i have high b12 but its been high since 2022 & ive never supplemented (i originally thought maybe it was due to a high nutrient dense diet, but in 2022 i was defo not eating a nutrient dense diet). I spoke to Hans & he thinks its a possible SIBO so gonna research into that. Appreciate all the help & you actually caring in advance. Ask for more details

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          A Former User
          last edited by Mar 11, 2024, 10:05 AM

          I currently feel like I have low androgens due to crashing my copper and iron because of what charlie told me to do (lol) and I find hawthorn tea is good for blood flow.

          Have you tried beef tallow?

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            nomaanali212 @A Former User
            last edited by Mar 11, 2024, 10:31 AM

            @questforhealth what did charlie say 🤣, tbf my copper to zinc is 1:10 so i dont think thats a concern, is my serum ferritin in a good spot??

            why beef tallow?

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              A Former User @nomaanali212
              last edited by A Former User Mar 11, 2024, 10:42 AM Mar 11, 2024, 10:41 AM

              @nomaanali212

              Grass fed beef tallow specifically, for stearic acid and low pufa and high sat fat. I used to love that stuff, even the grain fed before charlie’s advice messed me up.

              Made me very creative or idk if that’s the right way of say it but thinking of ways to make money and made me just get up and do stuff . Seeing opportunities everywhere.

              Idk about ferritin but if you aren’t anemic like me probably fine.

              Have you tried beef hearts too? those can be nice

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                nomaanali212 @A Former User
                last edited by Mar 11, 2024, 11:41 AM

                @questforhealth https://imgur.com/a/LPL7wPu diet plus supplements

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                  A Former User @nomaanali212
                  last edited by Mar 11, 2024, 12:48 PM

                  @nomaanali212

                  Is your beef suet grass fed or grain fed? Also I like to read about botany one my spare time and I know for a fact a lot of plant defence chemicals are estrogenic/borderline toxic. Anything coming from a leaf or stem is mildly or very toxic and if you are overwhelming the liver with supplements it causes all sorts of problems. Lettuce grown hydroponically can accumulate birth control pills from water. Same for hydroponic tomatoes probably. Fruits are food for humans. Let ruminants eat the leafy plants and make real food for you.

                  Is your body temp good? Do you feel high thyroid?

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                    Kvirion @nomaanali212
                    last edited by Mar 11, 2024, 3:21 PM

                    @nomaanali212 It would be good not to listen to too much advice as it may be conflicting...
                    Maybe focus on Hans's guidelines for a while - he is a brilliant guy.

                    Has anybody made a systemic background check on you? I mean what is your family health history, in which type of environment do you live? What were the circumstances where your problem started? Have you been exposed to any toxins or large amounts of GMO foods? Which drugs/supps have you taken before?

                    A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
                    Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
                    There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
                    And drinking largely sobers us again.
                    ~Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism

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                      nomaanali212 @A Former User
                      last edited by Mar 11, 2024, 3:32 PM

                      @questforhealth liver enzymes look good dont they??? and its occasional lettuce. no idea if suet is grassfed, i get it from a halal butchers n they wont have a clue

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                        A Former User @nomaanali212
                        last edited by Mar 11, 2024, 3:51 PM

                        @nomaanali212

                        I feel warmer eating less plants. I’ve had a good metabolism so many times then eaten some vegetable or carrots and crashed.

                        You know what man. I’ve taken too much cypro over the past few days Im chatting absolute shit but maybe still something to think about

                        Plants can be friends but they don’t want to be eaten... They can’t run away so they need to be toxic

                        For example parsley makes you infertile

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                          nomaanali212 @Kvirion
                          last edited by Mar 12, 2024, 10:00 AM

                          @Kvirion

                          @Kvirion said in recent bloodwork, NEED HELP:

                          Has anybody made a systemic background check on you? I mean what is your family health history, in which type of environment do you live? What were the circumstances where your problem started? Have you been exposed to any toxins or large amounts of GMO foods? Which drugs/supps have you taken before?

                          systemic background check??

                          my mum n dad r fine, dad has arthritis but thas about it,
                          live in the uk but try do everything to optimize my environment
                          probs shouldve mentioned this, but used to be 38% bf & lost 50kg over 2 years so probs crashed hormones n released alot of pufa, but ive been doing everything in my powers for the past 1.5-2 years to resurrect it
                          i limit my gmo n pesticide heavy foods

                          sent a link above of all my supps n foods but never taken drugs n not on any medication

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                            Kvirion @nomaanali212
                            last edited by Kvirion Mar 12, 2024, 3:37 PM Mar 12, 2024, 3:12 PM

                            @nomaanali212 said in recent bloodwork, NEED HELP:

                            Systemic background check??

                            Just a fancy name to learn about some external possible environmental/behavioral, etc. causes.

                            but used to be 38% bf & lost 50kg over 2 years so probs crashed hormones n released alot of pufa, but ive been doing everything in my powers for the past 1.5-2 years to resurrect it

                            So, obesity/PUFA may caused problems at first.
                            Have you tried Hans's protocol to deplete PUFA? https://testonation.com/2021/08/24/how-to-deplete-yourself-of-pufa-quickly-and-safely/

                            Moreover, there is also his excellent article about the best possible methods to raise T https://testonation.com/2018/11/14/75-proven-ways-to-boost-testosterone-production/

                            BTW Have doctors tried to give you HCG (which should raise T), to see how you react to it? Probably it's not the best way, but a least something to experiment with when other methods fail...

                            You may be interested in reading this study https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2948422/ It's about hypogonadism in older guys, but still a lot of universally useful info/suggestions.

                            A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
                            Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
                            There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
                            And drinking largely sobers us again.
                            ~Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism

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                              nomaanali212 @Kvirion
                              last edited by Mar 13, 2024, 12:23 PM

                              @Kvirion im doing near enough everything in the second link, even spoken to hans n he said my diet n lifestyle is good for T, he just thinks its a possible sibo

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