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    S.Holmes @evan.hinkle
    last edited by S.Holmes Jun 29, 2024, 3:15 PM Jun 29, 2024, 3:13 PM

    @evan-hinkle Not sure if this is the issue, but when I share a photo it appears as text until I select the "post" arrow.

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      evan.hinkle @S.Holmes
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      @S-Holmes ![alt text](image url)

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        evan.hinkle @S.Holmes
        last edited by Jun 29, 2024, 3:28 PM

        @S-Holmes I would have expected it to allow me to select a picture from the folder on my computer. I don’t have a picture posted on the web, so unfortunately I don’t have a url.

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          S.Holmes @evan.hinkle
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          @evan-hinkle Oh well, I'm sure it's an amazing treehouse.

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            tubert @Peatful
            last edited by Jun 29, 2024, 4:07 PM

            @Peatful Could you please explain how you incorporated high quantities of sucrose into your diet? Thanks

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              S.Holmes @S.Holmes
              last edited by Jun 29, 2024, 4:47 PM

              @S-Holmes said in Glucose loading cures everything?:

              @Peatful Could you expound on "rough"? I had a very strange burning pain from my neck to the bottom of my ribs yesterday (right side). I put an aspirin under my tongue and took a homeopathic remedy to treat stroke, just in case. It lasted about 15 minutes and then I was fine.

              If not for Dr.Peat I wouldn't have given the sucrose protocol a second look. I think he saved my life, but I still have lingering issues, and weight gain which is difficult because I was very thin my entire life. So I'm willing to try anything to feel better. I've been on Nathan Hatch's protocol for a few months, and it was helpful but still didn't quite get me "there." (I still use some of the things he suggests.)

              Apologies...I meant glucose protocol, not sucrose.

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                Peatful @tubert
                last edited by Jun 29, 2024, 4:47 PM

                @tubert said in Glucose loading cures everything?:

                @Peatful Could you please explain how you incorporated high quantities of sucrose into your diet? Thanks

                Hey there, this is voice recognition.

                I would love to help out
                But context is so important around any health data in my opinion

                So rather than me, spitting out a bunch of information
                Do you wanna just tell me kind of where you’re at or what specifically are you looking to heal?

                Dietary history here is paramount as well as just where your health lands today

                The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                SD

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                  Peatful @S.Holmes
                  last edited by Jun 29, 2024, 4:57 PM

                  @S-Holmes said in Glucose loading cures everything?:

                  @S-Holmes said in Glucose loading cures everything?:

                  @Peatful Could you expound on "rough"? I had a very strange burning pain from my neck to the bottom of my ribs yesterday (right side). I put an aspirin under my tongue and took a homeopathic remedy to treat stroke, just in case. It lasted about 15 minutes and then I was fine.

                  If not for Dr.Peat I wouldn't have given the sucrose protocol a second look. I think he saved my life, but I still have lingering issues, and weight gain which is difficult because I was very thin my entire life. So I'm willing to try anything to feel better. I've been on Nathan Hatch's protocol for a few months, and it was helpful but still didn't quite get me "there." (I still use some of the things he suggests.)

                  Apologies...I meant glucose protocol, not sucrose.

                  Hey
                  All sugars turn into glucose in our body
                  Lactose, dextrose, sucrose etc

                  Yes?

                  The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                  SD

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                    S.Holmes @Peatful
                    last edited by Jun 29, 2024, 6:10 PM

                    @Peatful The gist of the protocol is to skip all of the various conversions and provide glucose directly to the brain.

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                      Peatful @S.Holmes
                      last edited by Jun 29, 2024, 6:15 PM

                      @S-Holmes said in Glucose loading cures everything?:

                      @Peatful The gist of the protocol is to skip all of the various conversions and provide glucose directly to the brain.

                      “Protocol”
                      Please note

                      There is nothing new under the sun

                      Although I haven’t read nor watched this guy
                      This is just “marketing”

                      The title of the thread is: Glucose loading cures everything?

                      All sugars turn into glucose
                      Nothing magical about dextrose as far as I understand Peat

                      The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                      SD

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                        S.Holmes @S.Holmes
                        last edited by Jun 29, 2024, 6:16 PM

                        @S-Holmes I love that those little Smarties candies are made with 100% dextrose/glucose. 1 roll contains 6 or 7 grams of dextrose. Someone named them appropriately it seems. I bought some in bulk from Amazon. My little grandbabies are always getting bumps and bruises out here on our farm so Smarties (and Arnica montana) to the rescue! 😁

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                          Peatful @S.Holmes
                          last edited by Peatful Jun 29, 2024, 6:19 PM Jun 29, 2024, 6:17 PM

                          @S-Holmes said in Glucose loading cures everything?:

                          @S-Holmes I love that those little Smarties candies are made with 100% dextrose/glucose. 1 roll contains 6 or 7 grams of dextrose. Someone named them appropriately it seems. I bought some in bulk from Amazon. My little grandbabies are always getting bumps and bruises out here on our farm so Smarties (and Arnica montana) to the rescue! 😁

                          This is great
                          Load up and enjoy
                          Unless they are loaded with citric acid

                          For reference
                          Just in case

                          https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/manufactured-citric-acid-is-a-powerful-inflammatory-allergy-agent.41954/

                          The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                          SD

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                            S.Holmes @S.Holmes
                            last edited by S.Holmes Jun 29, 2024, 6:26 PM Jun 29, 2024, 6:23 PM

                            @Peatful You'll need to go back and check out some of the links. There is definitely a difference.

                            Georgi posted a study, which I believe I shared the link to in this thread, about glucose being used therapeutically in ALS. Why do mostly athletes develop ALS? Traumatic brain injuries are the likely cause. But Dr. Stephens says even milder bumps on the head that aren't obviously concussive will cause irreversible (via normal healing mechanisms) glucose limiting effects on the brain. Pure dextrose seems to be healing these brain injuries.

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                              Peatful @S.Holmes
                              last edited by Jun 29, 2024, 6:36 PM

                              @S-Holmes

                              This?

                              https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/high-sugar-diet-prolongs-survival-in-als-patients.3301/

                              A high SUGAR diet
                              And thar happens to be dextrose?

                              It’s about sugar
                              Not dextrose per say as far as I understand

                              Experiment
                              Have fun
                              Enjoy the journey

                              The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                              SD

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                                S.Holmes @Peatful
                                last edited by S.Holmes Jun 29, 2024, 6:51 PM Jun 29, 2024, 6:51 PM

                                @Peatful

                                "A 2019 study from the University of Arizona found that increasing GLUCOSE DELIVERY to motor neurons affected by amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS) may help patients live longer and function better. ALS is a progressive neurodegenerative disease that causes increased metabolic activity, known as hypermetabolism. When ALS-affected neurons are given more GLUCOSE, they can convert it into energy to meet their abnormally high energy demands. This may help improve mobility and increase survival rates.
                                Other research suggests that a higher GLUCOSE-based diet may also help slow ALS progression by preventing protein misfolding. Misfolded proteins can accumulate in the brains of ALS patients, which may contribute to disease progression."

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                                  Peatful @S.Holmes
                                  last edited by Jun 29, 2024, 7:22 PM

                                  @S-Holmes mm-hmm

                                  The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                                  SD

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                                    yerrag @Peatful
                                    last edited by Jun 29, 2024, 7:59 PM

                                    @Peatful

                                    I don't think sucrose turns into glucose. Half of sucrose is glucose. Half of it is fructose. Both are metabolized. There are other sugars out there like lactose. It is also metabolized. But there are some that aren't.

                                    Ray has spoken highly n earlier articles of fructose. In the way that it is more easily absorbed and metabolized. So clearly, it does not turn into glucose as you would say it does.

                                    Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                                    engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                                    wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                                    the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                                      S.Holmes @yerrag
                                      last edited by Jun 29, 2024, 8:13 PM

                                      @yerrag
                                      "Data from the present study show that ∼90% of dietary fructose is converted into glucose and other metabolites, such as lactate and glycerate, by the small intestine before it reaches the liver. Feb 23, 2018"

                                      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6032988/

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                                        Peatful @yerrag
                                        last edited by Peatful Jun 29, 2024, 8:18 PM Jun 29, 2024, 8:14 PM

                                        @yerrag said in Glucose loading cures everything?:

                                        @Peatful

                                        I don't think sucrose turns into glucose. Half of sucrose is glucose. Half of it is fructose. Both are metabolized. There are other sugars out there like lactose. It is also metabolized. But there are some that aren't.

                                        Ray has spoken highly n earlier articles of fructose. In the way that it is more easily absorbed and metabolized. So clearly, it does not turn into glucose as you would say it does.

                                        Yes

                                        Im not talking about the processing

                                        Fructose differs in structure etc from lactose obviously
                                        Etc etc etc

                                        Im saying
                                        We drink fructose (once processed)
                                        “Oh. Glucose to our brain.”
                                        We drink lactose (once processed)
                                        “Oh. Glucose to our brain”

                                        But of course they have different properties
                                        They are two different “foods”

                                        Now
                                        This differs from starch vs sugar
                                        Although starchy carbs “turn to glucose”
                                        Very different

                                        The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                                        SD

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                                          Peatful
                                          last edited by Peatful Jun 29, 2024, 8:34 PM Jun 29, 2024, 8:30 PM

                                          Just thought of something

                                          Im saying mono and disaccharides are the same once turned to glucose….
                                          Same energy per gram….

                                          Lactose.
                                          Fructose
                                          Sucrose
                                          Etc

                                          I stand corrected if im wrong here

                                          The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                                          SD

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