Glucose loading cures everything?
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@Insomniac said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
@Peatful It is certainly Ray Peat themed protocol. I've read a lot of the posts on the forum where it's being promoted and it's incredible that nobody has mentioned this even though the forum is named after him. It's absurd.
Oh really?
They are touting this video or this guy’s work not Ray’s?
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@Insomniac said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
@Peatful Exactly. Ray Peat doesn't even come up in the conversation. They've scrubbed him.
They never understood him.
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I haven't quite figured out how or why the brain downregulates sugar usage following every stress (any kind of stress). Stress seems to trigger lipolysis (vs glycolysis) and the damage is CUMULATIVE. Is this why stress kills? I've ordered his latest book. Hopefully he addresses this in depth.
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@S-Holmes said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
I haven't quite figured out how or why the brain downregulates sugar usage following every stress (any kind of stress). Stress seems to trigger lipolysis (vs glycolysis) and the damage is CUMULATIVE. Is this why stress kills? I've ordered his latest book. Hopefully he addresses this in depth.
Peat talk about this plenty
But not cohesively
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@Peatful Right, but I don't understand why the brain restricts it's own fuel consumption following a stress, and is never able to completely recover (without glucose loading).
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@evan-hinkle Thanks for the great report! Has the glucose loading caused any weight gain?
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What kind of problems did you have?
Do you then brush your teeth or rinse them after taking glucose?
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A clue, by Georgi/Haidut
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@S-Holmes no weight gain, in fact, a little lost recently, (5lbs) but I’ve added 800 calories… Ray always said carbs increase the metabolism!
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Why do so many athletes develop ALS? Multiple injuries can apparently trigger unrestrained, sustained lipolysis. So Georgi and Dr. Peat would probably agree with glucose loading. This is very interesting and provides solid info about what happens to the body when it experiences stress (any kind).
Thread 'ALS Tied To Increased Fat Oxidation (FAO), Increasing Glucose May Treat It' https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/als-tied-to-increased-fat-oxidation-fao-increasing-glucose-may-treat-it.29852/
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Another gem by Georgi
Thread 'Blood Sugar Is Controlled Mostly By The Brain, Not Pancreas' https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/blood-sugar-is-controlled-mostly-by-the-brain-not-pancreas.9858/
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@visalibero I’ve had cavities, (improved with vitamin k) and gum recession that hasn’t responded to antibiotics, (low dose longer term, tried doxy, penicillin, mino). Also my teeth tend to get soft no matter my calcium to phosphorus ratio.
The glucose makes them hard smooth and shiny. I don’t feel the need to brush right after because my oral heal feels improved directly by the glucose.
It’s crazy, but I’ve learned over the years to try things before I get too theoretically dogmatic. I was dogmatic about vegetables, chronic exercise, marijuana, and later veganism, and the lesson for me was: stop being dogmatic.
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@evan-hinkle I second that! Being a perennial lab rat you can't also be dogmatic. I keep an open mind about most therapies unless they obviously contradict what I have previously discovered to be true in my own experiments. Glucose loading is very Peaty and Dr. Peat (and Georgi) are my anchors.
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@Insomniac I do, I typically eat 2700-3000 calories, (it varies based on activity level). For instance I’m currently renovating a fixer-upper we bought last year. If I’m laying floors I may go to 4k calories. If I’m not doing any work that day I’m more in the 2700 range. The 800 new calories are in addition to my more typical 2700-3000.
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@S-Holmes totally agree. My framework is always “bioenergetic.” Does it improve temps, pulse, am I able to consume more, how’s my sleep, what’s my reaction to stress, etc.
With glucose it’s easy for me to imagine that poor digestion could be a limiting factor in conversion of carbohydrates to glucose. Add to this that I’ve had a history of concussions, and began loosing my hair when I had my first concussion at 16.
Peat frequently mentioned the role of the brain in holistic health, and even mentioned that it was one of the reasons why he chose vitamin E as a carrier for his hormone preparations, (its affinity for the brain).
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@evan-hinkle said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
The glucose makes them hard smooth and shiny. I don’t feel the need to brush right after because my oral heal feels improved directly by the glucose.
Interesting.
Same with me and sugar. Or more of everything, and less water, or hypotonic anything. Which led me to think it might be osmotic. Some promising indications for it in search.