Glucose loading cures everything?
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@LetTheRedeemed said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
@S-Holmes juice or white rice?
Regardless, I would start thyroid again now that you’re consuming enough carb calories.
My first morning temp is at least 98°. My late afternoon temp is at least 99°. These are consistent. I think I should forego the thyroid for now. The last thing I want right now is to risk a thyroid storm.
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@S-Holmes nice
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@josh I'll try to respond more later, but wondering if you know that adrenaline and cortisol are activated when blood sugar is low? They're a part of the blood sugar regulation. If you feel adrenaline in the morning there's a good chance your blood sugar has dropped too low during the night.
(Low cortisol is also commonly seen in HPA axis dysregulation, serum or free. I've been trying to find how that may affect blood sugar regulation, if anyone has the answer let me know!)
I've had a daily meditation practice for a decade and do lots of things that are now considered "neuroplastic exercises" (fairly new concept, but it's been around in other forms), but in my experience avoiding low blood sugar with enough food was way more efficient than neuroplastic exercises, when the goal was to not activate the stress hormones
A year of enough food, eating often, nutrient dense meals and white sugar did more for my HPA axis imbalances than a decade of neuroplastic exercises, and my sense is glucose has done even more to balance those hormones.
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@gentlepotato said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
@josh I'll try to respond more later, but wondering if you know that adrenaline and cortisol are activated when blood sugar is low? They're a part of the blood sugar regulation. If you feel adrenaline in the morning there's a good chance your blood sugar has dropped too low during the night.
(Low cortisol is also commonly seen in HPA axis dysregulation, serum or free. I've been trying to find how that may affect blood sugar regulation, if anyone has the answer let me know!)
I've had a daily meditation practice for a decade and do lots of things that are now considered "neuroplastic exercises" (fairly new concept, but it's been around in other forms), but in my experience avoiding low blood sugar with enough food was way more efficient than neuroplastic exercises, when the goal was to not activate the stress hormones
A year of enough food, eating often, nutrient dense meals and white sugar did more for my HPA axis imbalances than a decade of neuroplastic exercises, and my sense is glucose has done even more to balance those hormones.
Good info here!
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@LetTheRedeemed said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
@S-Holmes nice
Thanks! Who knew glucose was the missing macro (nutrient)!
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Time for more glucose! It has dropped .2 (thats POINT 2) degrees in the past hour. After glucose it will rise to 99.1 or 99.2.
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@S-Holmes do you have a food source for glucose? Or will you be plucking dextrose pills for life?
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Thanks @S-Holmes and @gentlepotato, your replies show alot of care and i really appreciate that :).
Thats really interesting about how Ray Peat says tinnitus is from dysbiosis in the gut, i will look into his work on this.
Thanks @gentlepotato i think you are right that i struggle to keep my blood sugar high enough through the night. During the day i eat very regularly to make sure my blood sugar stays up, but the night i am definitely still having problems with. Iv tried a few things to get me through the night without waking, and i think milk and honey with some fruit at bedtime gave my best results. Actually the glucose supplementation iv done recently has worsened my sleep i think because maybe its entering and exiting the blood too quick. Have you had any luck with anything to keep your blood glucose up through the night?
Im now trying to use the glucose supplementation in an intuitive way, like first thing in the morning or if symptoms show up.
Thanks also for the experience on how important blood sugar regulation is, it gives me hope im on the right track. Trying to work out the different effects of sucrose, glucose, fructose and lactose atm.
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@LetTheRedeemed said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
@S-Holmes do you have a food source for glucose? Or will you be plucking dextrose pills for life?
I use glucose in powdered form. The ultimate goal is to heal completely so you're able to get enough from food, but that varies with age and the magnitude of one's illness. I hope to be able to go on a lower maintenance dose in time. Stress and aging will burn through it faster, so I'll use it on an "as needed" basis.
Dr Stephens says that glucose is more, or just as, important to the body as water and oxygen. If your body doesn't have the ability to efficiently convert food to fuel, straight dextrose/glucose seems to be the best option.
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@josh We (husband and I) have glucose in cocoa before bed and that seems to help us get better sleep. Having some glucose water (or Smarties candy tablets) beside the bed in case blood sugar drops should also help.
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Did nobody here get blood sugar drops from glucose? I only tested it a couple of days like 3 or 4 times a day just 5g dextrose. Always felt good but after like half an hour get a heavy blood sugar drop afterwards. What does this mean? To low of a does the body need some time to adopt?
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@Mr-X said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
Did nobody here get blood sugar drops from glucose? I only tested it a couple of days like 3 or 4 times a day just 5g dextrose. Always felt good but after like half an hour get a heavy blood sugar drop afterwards. What does this mean? To low of a does the body need some time to adopt?
I don't do well with glucose on an empty stomach, and yes, there is an adjustment period. But it looks like your starting dose was very low. You need about 30 grams per bolus to begin with. If you choose to go the Mercola route, you need to keep the glucose coming all day long rather than 3 or 4 doses a day recommended by Dr Stephens. Hope that makes sense.
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Thanks @S-Holmes, when you started did you put 30g dextrose in your hot chocolate? Do you use a lesser dose now you are more used to it?
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@josh said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
Thanks @S-Holmes, when you started did you put 30g dextrose in your hot chocolate? Do you use a lesser dose now you are more used to it?
I use 3 Tbsp. That's ~30 grams. Also, glucose/dextrose is less sweet than sucrose so 30 grams is just right (for me). Rather than using a lesser dose you have to increase the doses with glucose therapy until symptoms subside.
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@S-Holmes interesting. Are you looking into why the liver could be having trouble getting glucose from food? It's not too hard to get glucose from rice or fructose (most fruit sugars are 40% glucose already, and with a decent liver, converting fructose to glucose isn't too hard, no?).
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@LetTheRedeemed said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
@S-Holmes interesting. Are you looking into why the liver could be having trouble getting glucose from food? It's not too hard to get glucose from rice or fructose (most fruit sugars are 40% glucose already, and with a decent liver, converting fructose to glucose isn't too hard, no?).
Stress, aging, illness, injuries are known as glucose limiting events, and they are cumulative. So not getting enough glucose from food is apparently common, and even more of a problem as we age. I can't explain how this happens, but eating a normal healthy diet, and even avoiding seed and nut oils for nearly 20 years, did nothing for my temperature (how I gauge my thyroid health).
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@S-Holmes I get it... sorry not trying to come across as grilling you
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@LetTheRedeemed said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
@S-Holmes I get it... sorry not trying to come across as grilling you
No worries!
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I'm experiencing stomach upset with all this glucose. I did 25g X 4 yesterday. Any advice?
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@Ecstatic_Hamster said in Glucose loading cures everything?:
I'm experiencing stomach upset with all this glucose. I did 25g X 4 yesterday. Any advice?
- Cut back a little and work up slowly. 2) Take homeopathic Nux vomica 30C or homeopathic Ipecac 30C as needed. 3) Mix it in carbonated water. 4) Have some food with your dose.
- Take smaller more frequent doses.
I sometimes need to do all of the above. I also take my doses in organic chocolate milk or lime/lemon water.
