Dairy folate

Jakeandpace

Although this may be nothing new for a lot of people it is for me and I’d like to hear perspectives.

Travis liked to hammer this point home pretty consistently. He suggests that milk homogenisation aids in the per-sorption of undigested proteins causing an immune reaction and thus auto-antibodies to the folate receptor.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/10759136/?i=4&from=/22369260/related

« Relatively new data on actual concentrations in different dairy products show folate-binding proteins (FBP) to occur in unprocessed milk, but also in pasteurised milk, spray-dried skim milk powder and whey. In contrast, UHT milk, fermented milk and most cheeses only contain low levels or trace amounts. »

He mentions goat dairy and maybe even non homogenised bovine dairy. This study suggests UHT milk may be better but to my understanding it may still provoke an immune reaction. I also understand that supplementing folate may be another solution but it feels like more of a band aid. Others have suggested that more robust rigorous digestion may be the solution and sluggish digestion is the real problem.

I digest goat dairy extremely well but I think the retinol concentration may be to high for me as I also get altered mental state consistently when I have too much and slight thinning of the hair. Similar to when I have had to much liver in the past.

Any suggestions by someone who has researched the topic would be appreciated. Given I have a history of anxiety that was pretty extreme at times and stomach issues I think this issue could apply to me.

Jakeandpace

Bump. I wanna know if I can have my dairy. If I can have my cake and eat it.

@Jakeandpace

Have your ancestors drank milk for thousands of years? Were they in tremendous health?

Drink raw milk from grass fed animals and you’ll do great.

Jakeandpace

@RawGoatMilk88

This wasn’t really what I was asking but I know what you’re getting at. “Processed milk isn’t ancestrally consistent and raw milk is”

My question is, can one get away with drinking processed milk (homogenised) and not have to deal with these autoantibodies that form in response.

I’m guessing the answer is better digestion but how can this be ensured? Or perhaps less frequent milk intake.

@Jakeandpace

I have no scientific answer, but my personal anecdote is I feel great when drinking raw milk from my goats and feel relatively shitty when drinking store bought milk.

I think if store milk is your only option, opt for A2, from what I’ve heard, virtually everyone reacts better.

Jakeandpace

@RawGoatMilk88

Yes so I’ve heard with A2. Unfortunately that isn’t widely available in my country but thanks for the tips. I have a source for a non-homogenised milk I may start getting but I’m starting to think milk of any kind is a net benefit when drank at the correct time and not totally haphazardly.