Restoration of the Biofield topic
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some thoughts:
Researching information about the biofield is a little like researching sugar or polyunsaturated fats without having first read Ray Peat's work for reference. If you start out reading about polyunsaturated fats at the American Heart Association you may well be wandering for years in the wilderness.
Because I am hypothyroid and also have experienced thiamine deficiency/functional blockage for many years (5 decades +), perhaps I am more attuned than some people to what low body energy feels like. Think about how body temperature can be used as a gauge to determine how well your own personal body energy system is doing.
I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism by my OB-GYN when I was 25 (50 years ago) due to failure to heal of the cervix 2 years after childbirth. I've taken prescription thyroid medication for 50 years. I'm very good at feeling my body's energy level.
I've lived with mercury poisoning since I was a child (childhood mercury amalgam fillings, removed the dangerous way, when I was in my 20's). Mercury causes high oxidative stress which consumes thiamine which acts as an antioxidant (among other vital things). High oxidative stress results in thiamine deficiency. The thyroid requires thiamine to do its job; the thyroid is considered by some experts to be the "canary in the coal mine" when it comes to thiamine deficiency because it is so sensitive to a deficit of this vitamin (b1). I've been high dosing thiamine hcl, 1 gram twice a day for 4 years. It has given me my life back. I take additional supplements as well because increasing the body's oxidative metabolism will use up other vitamins/minerals faster.
The body makes energy (ATP) from "burning" nutrients in the mitochondria via oxidative metabolism. Oxidative metabolism requires both thiamine AND thyroid hormone; without these two things, cellular energy cannot happen. No cellular energy = no life force = death. Cellular energy equals to electrical current.
links:
How Can Something As Simple as Thiamine Cause So Many Problems?A Review of the Biochemistry, Metabolism and Clinical Benefits of Thiamin(e) and Its Derivatives
Thiamine leads to oxidative stress resistance via regulation of the glucose metabolism
EMF Hypersensitivity and Thiamine
Another source for body energy is the human biofield. The biofield is the electrical current that surrounds the body and is affected by magnetism. The earth acts like a big magnet. The concept of grounding/"Earthing" comes to mind:
Integrative and lifestyle medicine strategies should include Earthing (grounding): Review of research evidence and clinical observationsI have recently been experimenting with getting in touch with my biofield. I've done one exercise session (video) with She Who Must Not Be Named. The video session lasted over an hour but I chose to stop at 30 minutes because I got tired; it was my first time at this new "exercise" after all and I'm almost 75. I did experience piloerection. I also was very aware that my body temperature had increased at least a degree and I was a little sweaty. I interpret increased body temperature as a positive thing. The "exercise" session entailed standing (barefoot) and visualizing the movement of energy while music played. Having an instructor who is well versed in the technique was helpful for me.
She Who Must Not Be Named promotes the idea that getting familiar with your own body's bioshield and "exercising" it will strengthen it and is protective as your biofield is then less vulnerable to the intrusion of EMF etc. I personally like this approach because it does not require ingesting questionable "supplements/chelators".
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@mostlylurking said in Restoration of the Biofield topic:
I have recently been experimenting with getting in touch with my biofield.
Fear about things that are not in the present or widely adopted in the present may not be helpful to this end.
@mostlylurking said in Restoration of the Biofield topic:
She Who Must Not Be Named
You can name whoever you want and share whatever you want. The only thing that could stop you is you.
@mostlylurking said in Restoration of the Biofield topic:
The video session lasted over an hour but I chose to stop at 30 minutes because I got tired; it was my first time at this new "exercise"
I did experience piloerection.
The "exercise" session entailed standing (barefoot) and visualizing the movement of energy while music played. Having an instructor who is well versed in the technique was helpful for me.
She Who Must Not Be Named promotes the idea that getting familiar with your own body's bioshield and "exercising" it will strengthen it and is protective as your biofield is then less vulnerable to the intrusion of EMF etc.
I personally like this approach
@mostlylurking said in Restoration of the Biofield topic:
esoteric woo woo
Of course I don't know that it is. But neither do you.
I do know there are journal sources about this subject by which one may infer appropriate exercise. However at some point one does defer their confidence to context.
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@ThinPicking said in Restoration of the Biofield topic:
@mostlylurking said in Restoration of the Biofield topic:
I have recently been experimenting with getting in touch with my biofield.
Fear about things that are not in the present or widely adopted in the present may not be helpful to this end.
What do you mean by that? I'm talking about biofield work to improve my body's energy level. What are you talking about?? You are warning me that it's dangerous to consider things that are not widely adopted in the "present"?? On a Ray Peat oriented forum?? Silly me; I thought this forum was for an exchange of ideas, experiences, and knowledge. It is called the "Bioenergetic Forum". If I have had positive results increasing my body's temperature by focusing on my biofield, I think that is a reasonable thing to report. Other people would find that of interest. What is your problem?
@mostlylurking said in Restoration of the Biofield topic:
She Who Must Not Be Named
You can name whoever you want and share whatever you want. The only thing that could stop you is you.
I'm very much aware that you are intensely watching what I am writing on this forum. I don't like your micromanagement. You come off as the Thought Police.
@mostlylurking said in Restoration of the Biofield topic:
The video session lasted over an hour but I chose to stop at 30 minutes because I got tired; it was my first time at this new "exercise"
I did experience piloerection.
The "exercise" session entailed standing (barefoot) and visualizing the movement of energy while music played. Having an instructor who is well versed in the technique was helpful for me.
She Who Must Not Be Named promotes the idea that getting familiar with your own body's bioshield and "exercising" it will strengthen it and is protective as your biofield is then less vulnerable to the intrusion of EMF etc.
I personally like this approach
@mostlylurking said in Restoration of the Biofield topic:
esoteric woo woo
Of course I don't know that it is. But neither do you.
I do know there are journal sources about this subject by which one may infer appropriate exercise. However at some point one does defer their confidence to context.
What do you mean by that?? You are speaking in riddles. What do you mean by "However at some point one does defer their confidence to context."???
I am obviously wasting my time here.
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@mostlylurking said in Restoration of the Biofield topic:
What do you mean by that?
*Super-6G body antennas etc.
@mostlylurking said in Restoration of the Biofield topic:
I am obviously wasting my time here.
With me, probably.
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@ThinPicking said in Restoration of the Biofield topic:
@mostlylurking said in Restoration of the Biofield topic:
What do you mean by that?
*Super-6G body antennas etc.
Have you never experienced emf sensitivity? I know I have. For many years. I was unable to go to a big city (by driving a car) without getting really stoopid. I would get lost. But there's a song about that, "Lost in Austin Again" so maybe I wasn't the only one. I'd get lost in San Antonio too but there's no song about that. However, there is the old saying that "San Antonio was laid out by a drunk Indian riding a blind mule." Anyway, my brain would simply short out and I'd get loopy. Once I got out of the city limits, my brain function would click back in. EMF sensitivity is a known thing; a lot of people are affected by it. This was WAY before 5G, in the early 1990's; there were very few towers back then.
@mostlylurking said in Restoration of the Biofield topic:
I am obviously wasting my time here.
With me, probably.
You are supposed to be acting as a moderator, not as the thought police.
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@mostlylurking said in Restoration of the Biofield topic:
Have you never experienced emf sensitivity?
Restored sensitivity to everything was my initial state on incorporating bioenergetic ideas in to my behaviour. But I realised at some point, I could counter that sensitivity with sensitivity. It may relate to the topic of biofields. I don't actually know. We'd have to walk to find out.
@mostlylurking said in Restoration of the Biofield topic:
You are supposed to be acting as a moderator, not as the thought police.
I'm acting as neither and not acting at all. I'm modifying my manner of speech before I write but that's all.
Moderation is for extremes and bots. Conversation tends to avoid the need.
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@mostlylurking said in Restoration of the Biofield topic:
I would get lost. But there's a song about that, "Lost in Austin Again"
Thank you 🧡
I'd be lost without the art. Generally speaking.
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@ThinPicking said in Restoration of the Biofield topic:
@mostlylurking said in Restoration of the Biofield topic:
Have you never experienced emf sensitivity?
Restored sensitivity to everything was my initial state on incorporating bioenergetic ideas in to my behaviour. But I realised at some point, I could counter that sensitivity with sensitivity. It may relate to the topic of biofields. I don't actually know. We'd have to walk to find out.
I need you to elaborate and explain what you mean by this paragraph. Sentence by sentence. I'd like to be able to respond better and I'm simply having a hard time following you.
@mostlylurking said in Restoration of the Biofield topic:
You are supposed to be acting as a moderator, not as the thought police.
I'm acting as neither and not acting at all. I'm modifying my manner of speech before I write but that's all.
Moderation is for extremes and bots. Conversation tends to avoid the need.
We seem to trigger each other easily. I don't know if this is a language barrier thing? I speak Texan; you are British, right?
Since you liked the music link, here's another one. I live maybe 20 miles from this place. Here's one that shows terrain that looks exactly like where I live. This one always makes me happy!
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@mostlylurking said in Restoration of the Biofield topic:
I need you to elaborate and explain what you mean by this paragraph. Sentence by sentence. I'd like to be able to respond better and I'm simply having a hard time following you.
Sleep on it. Preferably three or more times. Part of your issue on the topic is that you're in a rush. Probably because a video on the internet spooked you. A video made by self identifying spook community affiliate.
@mostlylurking said in Restoration of the Biofield topic:
We seem to trigger each other easily. I don't know if this is a language barrier thing?
At no point have you "triggered" me. But said something I could respond to, on a topic that may or may not sit beneath the topic that may or may not sit beneath endocrinology. Namely fluid balance/dynamics.
@mostlylurking said in Restoration of the Biofield topic:
I speak Texan; you are British, right?
According to my legal documentation and immediate cultural imprint, yes. But not without humour.
@mostlylurking said in Restoration of the Biofield topic:
Since you liked the music link
Mosey on down to one of the two music threads sometime and share the wealth.
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@ThinPicking My "sleeping on it" is not going to clarify my confusion regarding how you are phrasing things. I'll wake up tomorrow just as confused as ever.
Restored sensitivity to everything was my initial state on incorporating bioenergetic ideas in to my behaviour. But I realised at some point, I could counter that sensitivity with sensitivity. It may relate to the topic of biofields. I don't actually know. We'd have to walk to find out.
I'll try to break this down so maybe you will understand the issue I'm having with this paragraph.
you said:
"Restored sensitivity to everything was my initial state on incorporating bioenergetic ideas in to my behaviour."
Are you saying that when you incorporated "bioenergetic ideas" you became hypersensitive to everything? What do you mean by "bioenergetic ideas"? What do you mean by "restored sensitivity"?you said:
"But I realised at some point, I could counter that sensitivity with sensitivity. It may relate to the topic of biofields."
Wha? "I could counter that sensitivity with sensitivity?" I'm at a loss, truly. Kindly rephrase.you said:
"It may relate to the topic of biofields. I don't actually know." What's "it"? Can you please define what you mean by "biofields".you said:
"We'd have to walk to find out." I'm at a loss. Kindly rephrase. What do you mean? -
@mostlylurking said in Restoration of the Biofield topic:
My "sleeping on it" is not going to clarify my confusion regarding how you are phrasing things.
This is the nature of all conversation and literature. And more probably. We're reunderstanding things all the time. Which can be from a place of having not understood at all.
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@ThinPicking said in Restoration of the Biofield topic:
At no point have you "triggered" me. But said something I could respond to, on a topic that may or may not sit beneath the topic that may or may not sit beneath endocrinology. Namely fluid balance/dynamics.
I simply cannot figure out what you are saying. I suspect it may be a linguistics thing. You are trying to focus on a "topic that may or may not sit beneath endocrinology"? Relating to "fluid balance/dynamics"? Is this a balance thing? Are you dizzy? There's something going with your health that you think is related to endocrinology?
I cannot respond unless I can understand what you are saying.
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@ThinPicking said in Restoration of the Biofield topic:
@mostlylurking said in Restoration of the Biofield topic:
My "sleeping on it" is not going to clarify my confusion regarding how you are phrasing things.
This is the nature of all conversation and literature. And more probably. We're reunderstanding things all the time. Which can be from a place of having not understood at all.
You are speaking in riddles. It makes it impossible to converse with you.
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I'm not but I'm also fine with you declaring it impossible to continue the conversation indefinitely.
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@mostlylurking
The biofield is legit. It is known by other names. It is not different from life force or chi. But the medical dogma is not compatible with it.
However, I don't think Dr. Robert Young can be a credible reference. He has made comments on Pat Timpone's show that strikes him as eccentric, saying things that even from a wholistic standpoint, goes on the deep end or to the left field.
He cites the horse as an example of why eating vegetables or plants as better for humans.
He says the ideal human urine pH is 8 and above.
He claims to have studied bioterrain theory under a late German bioterrain stalwart, but I can't even look up more detail on it.
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@yerrag said in Restoration of the Biofield topic:
@mostlylurking
The biofield is legit. It is known by other names. It is not different from life force or chi. But the medical dogma is not compatible with it.
Yes, on all points.
However, I don't think Dr. Robert Young can be a credible reference. He has made comments on Pat Timpone's show that strikes him as eccentric, saying things that even from a wholistic standpoint, goes on the deep end or to the left field.
I think Dr. Robert Young is a few decibels higher than a lot of us and probably a few degrees off the mark on some things. But at least he's talking about it.
He cites the horse as an example of why eating vegetables or plants as better for humans.
Yes, I agree with you.
He says the ideal human urine pH is 8 and above.
Yes, I agree with you.
He claims to have studied bioterrain theory under a late German bioterrain stalwart, but I can't even look up more detail on it.
Yes, he seems to be a bit of a nut. Sorry for even linking to him. Oops.
The term "biofield" seems to be the approved scientific technological term for it now. see here.
Biofield Science and Healing: An Emerging Frontier in Medicine
Biofield Science and Healing: An Emerging Frontier in Medicine (pdf download)
The point I'm trying to make here on the forum is that the biofield/aura/life force/chi is very real. It's a body part. But if people don't know they even have a "biofield" and that it can be "excercised" to be made stronger, it's a big problem because without this body part functioning, you are more vulnerable to emf and with it functioning your own body energy can be increased and can theoretically provide a protective buffer for modern emf pollution. EMF = radiation. I demonstrated the existence of my own biofield (to myself) by increasing my own body temperature when focusing on my biofield and doing some simple visualization exercises. It seemed to make a difference when I took my shoes off. This heated me up more than my 20 minute walk over steep hilly terrain.
I should add that I do take an optimized dose of prescription desiccated thyroid daily (10 years on this product) and I also take high dose thiamine hcl (for the past 4 years) and my diet is good and has been for over 10 years so my PUFA body load is low. I had already done these things to improve my oxidative metabolism (long term); I discerned surprising additional improvement in body temperature when I experimented with my body's energy field.
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@yerrag said in Restoration of the Biofield topic:
He claims to have studied bioterrain theory under a late German bioterrain stalwart, but I can't even look up more detail on it.
I think "bioterrain" equals "terrain" See here: https://bioenergetic.life/?q=terrain
also:
https://www.terraintheory.net/blogs/articles/the-germ-is-nothing-the-terrain-is-everything -
@mostlylurking said in Restoration of the Biofield topic:
I think Dr. Robert Young is a few decibels higher than a lot of us and probably a few degrees off the mark on some things. But at least he's talking about it.
Yes, I agree with you.
Yes, I agree with you.
Yes, he seems to be a bit of a nut. Sorry for even linking to him. Oops.
How confusing.
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@ThinPicking I'll try to explain:
- I posted the original post to this thread. I mentioned "biofield" and I also wrote about Dr. Robert Young.
- @yerrag responded that yes, the biofield is a real thing.
- @yerrag also said that Dr. Robert Young is not a credible source and listed reasons why.
- I responded to @yerrag and wrote a little about the biofield/aura/chi.
- I also wrote that I agree with @yerrag that Dr. Robert Young is not a good source and that I regret that I linked to his site.
- Note that I posted several times at the beginning of this thread and have provided multiple links to sources other than Dr. Robert Young in these posts. I could have and should have simply left Dr. Young out of the topic entirely for the sake of clarity.
Dr. Robert Young makes some good points on his blog and in his videos. However your own discernment abilities must be activated when reading/watching him. Simply opening up the top of one's head and pouring Dr. Young's (or anyone else's) ideas in unabated can be hazardous to one's own well being. Discernment abilities can be thought of as "intuition" or "spidey senses" which ties back into qualities of an activated biofield and why it is important to have one.
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It's funny to me that you feel the need to explain discernment in all honesty.
While adopting wallace's linguo and the rest. Thank you for the comedy in it.
